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My source was a news story, with video. I don't remember where I saw it, and I don't remember if they mentioned which parts were being improved, and no, it wasn't "routine maintenance.. It was only a couple of days ago. I also read some weeks ago that other sections were out for bids.
But I realize that you who rely on CNN, MSNBC, etc., wouldn't be informed. Most of you don't even know that the border wall was authorized by Congress to be built many years ago (at least 23).
That's not fantastically helpful. Would really appreciate a link if you stumble across it again. If you can't find it, I suspect it was wishful thinking by that source (whichever source that was).
Very funny. Do you know how to use a search engine? Google? Bing? Do your own damn research.
Here ...you can start with this:
well that was fascinating, listening to Steve Cortez parrot a bunch of political talking points for 10 minutes, it was so interesting that I decided to see what real Texas news outlets had to say about it and found this:
"...But construction on the wall was not expected to begin until January because Congress has yet to approve CBP’s budget. On Thursday, the House approved a spending bill that contained $1.6 billion to build pieces of the wall in Texas and California. Its fate in the Senate is uncertain.
Customs and Border Protection spokesman Carlos Diaz said it “would be premature to speak about specific locations.” The only South Texas projects authorized under the current budget are the installation of 35 gates at gaps the agency left in the existing border fence, he said". https://www.texastribune.org/2017/07...ng-rio-grande/
What you fail to remember or state is those "kids" you speak of are for the most part not "kids" but adults so it's not like anyone is ripping a babe from the bosom of it's mother.
I do wish people would quit talking like all these "dreamers" are a bunch of 10 year olds or younger. I also wish they'd drop the cutesy freaking names and refer to them as they actually are but that wouldn't engender the attempt to tug at the heart strings now would it?
Illegal Immigration project group sitting around a table, hmmm, what name can we call this that will make anyone who opposes it look like a mean,evil person who just hates families and kids from other countries (IE: racist or bigot). Oh I know! "Dreamers or Family Fairness act".
As for the extended family, it's exactly as it says, uncles,aunts,cousins,grand parents etc. In other words a potential of millions past the 800k young illegals we're speaking about.
Do we as a nation have any obligation here? Yes, as our dear leaders let them in unabated BUT shut off the spigot first and only deal with the ones that are here right now and have been for a number of years. Everyone else needs to find the closest exit AND a clause added to the law that no program like this or any amnesty can EVER happen again.
Not a memory problem...
I have two "kids." They are now in their later twenties, but their age doesn't stop making them "kids" in the eyes of their parents. They're just not young kids anymore. Either way they are children for the parents no matter what the age, and what you seem to be "forgetting" is that the issue about these young adults is that they were brought here as young kids and now -- after all this time -- to deport them and/or separate them from their parents (or vice versa) is generally considered a rather draconian thing to do according to the majority of Americans who are against ending DACA. The wrong thing to do in any case...
Most "dreamers" are in fact enrolled in higher education, which might make for a better reason to call them "dreamers." Most college kids are. Regardless the rhetoric, harsh or not, a matter of opinion. Calling illegal immigrants "rapists and murderers" might have been a little harsh, so maybe terms not as harsh helps to balance the scales a bit. I don't know, but regardless the rhetoric chosen, the issue is not so hard to understand or decide upon if you consider the facts for what they are, plain and simple. The ACTUAL reason most people don't have the heartburn over DACA and/or illegal immigrants like Trump does (or did) has little to do with rhetoric and more to do with the facts.
We as a nation have an obligation to choose right from wrong when it comes to matters of the human condition, because we are all humans regardless where we were born. Some just a lot more fortunate than others...
Here's a dose of reality for everyone concerning DACA and illegal immigrants.
The elderly nursing home industry is almost exclusively staffed by DACAs and illegal immigrants. I know, because My mother and my mother in law both developed Alzheimer's and MIL had to be put in a "Memory Care" nursing home and my mother stayed at home with me and was cared for by an organization called the Visiting Nurses Society and received 24-7 supervised care from them.
Both were heavily staffed by Latinas who were either DACAs or illegals. These ladies are the most patient, caring, compassionate angels as far as I'm concerned. They got paid very little for what they did and I guarantee you no educated American citizen would take the job unless they had no other alternative and they would hate every minute if they did.
We often joke that the nursing home is full of Mexicans. This is true, but not as patients, as care givers. Changing bedpan, clothes, bathing people daily, cleaning up after them, exercising them. I've worked with patients in three separate nursing homes in Arizona and the line staff excluding administrators are all Latinas. When my mother died in the night, we went into her room that morning and Maria, our care giver, immediately started washing my mother's whole body from head to toe. She said it was traditional in her culture to completely wash the body at death to prepare the soul for heaven.
She Didn't have to do that. It was an act of pure love I'll never forget. Caring for my mother was never just a job for her. When the ambulance came and took my mother away, Maria packed her things and left and we never saw her again, but I'll never forget her.
Another fact. You will never find a patient of a nursing home who is of Latino or Chinese Descent. Why? Because their culture keeps their old people with them until the end of their elders days. No matter what the circumstances. It's family first, whatever the price. It's only the Euro cultures that warehouse their elders and it is very heartbreaking to see the elders alone, in the lobby on Easter or Mothers day, hoping that one of their children show up for the feast the home has prepared for all the residents. After dinner, those same elders are still sitting there alone, waiting for some family member to remember that they even exist.
The reason no Americans will take the line jobs in a nursing home is because the work is so demanding and the pay is so low. The reason the pay is so low is because almost 70% of those elders in a nursing home are on Medicaid. Medicaid will only pay the bare minimum for services at nursing homes which means the pay rate is very low.
When a resident checks into a nursing home, they must submit a detailed financial statement that goes back 5 years. The 5 years is to insure that the residents didn't suddenly empty out their estate prior to admittance to the home. The home will bill them the rack rate and take it out of their account until it's almost empty and then Medicaid kicks in and pays medicaid rates for reimbursement to the facility. The facility could never afford to hire normal, educated American citizens who expect a living wage to do the line jobs.
You clamp down on the illegal immigrants and DACAs who work the nursing homes and you will destroy the entire industry and then when it comes time for your grandparents and parents to be warehoused out, you will end up spending your entire family fortune taking care of them until they die and you will be robbed of the prime years of your life.
Think hard before you say these illegals and DACAS are the problem. In many cases, they are the solution. The best solution.
Here's a dose of reality for everyone concerning DACA and illegal immigrants.
The elderly nursing home industry is almost exclusively staffed by DACAs and illegal immigrants. I know, because My mother and my mother in law both developed Alzheimer's and MIL had to be put in a "Memory Care" nursing home and my mother stayed at home with me and was cared for by an organization called the Visiting Nurses Society and received 24-7 supervised care from them.
Both were heavily staffed by Latinas who were either DACAs or illegals. These ladies are the most patient, caring, compassionate angels as far as I'm concerned. They got paid very little for what they did and I guarantee you no educated American citizen would take the job unless they had no other alternative and they would hate every minute if they did.
We often joke that the nursing home is full of Mexicans. This is true, but not as patients, as care givers. Changing bedpan, clothes, bathing people daily, cleaning up after them, exercising them. I've worked with patients in three separate nursing homes in Arizona and the line staff excluding administrators are all Latinas. When my mother died in the night, we went into her room that morning and Maria, our care giver, immediately started washing my mother's whole body from head to toe. She said it was traditional in her culture to completely wash the body at death to prepare the soul for heaven.
She Didn't have to do that. It was an act of pure love I'll never forget. Caring for my mother was never just a job for her. When the ambulance came and took my mother away, Maria packed her things and left and we never saw her again, but I'll never forget her.
Another fact. You will never find a patient of a nursing home who is of Latino or Chinese Descent. Why? Because their culture keeps their old people with them until the end of their elders days. No matter what the circumstances. It's family first, whatever the price. It's only the Euro cultures that warehouse their elders and it is very heartbreaking to see the elders alone, in the lobby on Easter or Mothers day, hoping that one of their children show up for the feast the home has prepared for all the residents. After dinner, those same elders are still sitting there alone, waiting for some family member to remember that they even exist.
The reason no Americans will take the line jobs in a nursing home is because the work is so demanding and the pay is so low. The reason the pay is so low is because almost 70% of those elders in a nursing home are on Medicaid. Medicaid will only pay the bare minimum for services at nursing homes which means the pay rate is very low.
When a resident checks into a nursing home, they must submit a detailed financial statement that goes back 5 years. The 5 years is to insure that the residents didn't suddenly empty out their estate prior to admittance to the home. The home will bill them the rack rate and take it out of their account until it's almost empty and then Medicaid kicks in and pays medicaid rates for reimbursement to the facility. The facility could never afford to hire normal, educated American citizens who expect a living wage to do the line jobs.
You clamp down on the illegal immigrants and DACAs who work the nursing homes and you will destroy the entire industry and then when it comes time for your grandparents and parents to be warehoused out, you will end up spending your entire family fortune taking care of them until they die and you will be robbed of the prime years of your life.
Think hard before you say these illegals and DACAS are the problem. In many cases, they are the solution. The best solution.
That's all I'll say on this whole matter.
I certainly would not want an illegal alien taking care of a loved one of mine. There are plenty of americans who are nurses but some hospitals would rather pay less to an illegal alien and then charge the patient the same amount and pocket the profit. The mindset that you have of wanting cheap labor is the same mindset of someone who supported slavery 200 years ago.
I certainly would not want an illegal alien taking care of a loved one of mine. There are plenty of americans who are nurses but some hospitals would rather pay less to an illegal alien and then charge the patient the same amount and pocket the profit. The mindset that you have of wanting cheap labor is the same mindset of someone who supported slavery 200 years ago.
If you live in most major cities, you realize quickly that not only are "illegal aliens" taking care of people in nursing homes or hospitals, they're also preparing your food, cleaning your neighbor's homes, watching over people's kids, etc. And it's pretty hard to tell which one of those services is coming from a legal or illegal immigrant, or an immigrant at all. Unfortunately you can't really go into a hospital/restaurant/etc and demand to see every employee's citizenship papers, so it's kind of out of your control.
The bottom line for that poster and for most of us is that someone is doing those things with love. I want someone who's good to care for my loved ones, period. If Americans can do it, then they should... it's not my job to place them in every job where they can be.
I certainly would not want an illegal alien taking care of a loved one of mine. There are plenty of americans who are nurses but some hospitals would rather pay less to an illegal alien and then charge the patient the same amount and pocket the profit. The mindset that you have of wanting cheap labor is the same mindset of someone who supported slavery 200 years ago.
They are not hospitals. They are nursing homes for the elderly and there is usually one nurse on duty or on call for the entire operation. They get no professional medical care in a nursing home except Drs. will make a monthly visit to their shut in patients. The ambulances to take them to the hospitals or the morgue are usually a daily occurrence first thing in the morning.
When it's time for your parents to go to a nursing home and you tell the home you will only accept certified, professionally trained, American citizens to care for your parents, the nursing home will tell you to find some place else. And you'll look forever for that home that doesn't exit. That's your bottom line, scooter. I've spent too many of the last 7 years in nursing homes and with elder care workers than I care to and I know what I'm talking about.
The reason the politicians keep kicking the illegal immigration can down the road is the fact that the entire elderly health care industry is driven by cheap labor with a few medical specialists supervising the entire operation.
I don't care how much money or health insurance you have, you could never afford to have an American citizen providing daily care for your elderly grandma while she slowly deteriorates with dementia for 5-7 years.
If the illegals and DACAs were all shipped back to Mexico like the haters want, the entire nursing home, elderly, intensive, extensive care system would collapse. The business model for the operation is based on a low, fixed labor cost.
The politicians have an option. They could throw billions and billions of dollars at Medicaid to bring the bottom line wages up to living wage standards. But the odds of them doing that are slim to none and slim just left town.
You know what? If they did bring the wages up to standards, the Latinas would still get preferential hiring because the are so good at taking care of elders. It's a natural part of their culture and a known fact in the industry. They grew up as kids at their grandmas and grandpas knees and were bread to have respect and reverence for the elderly. It's bred into their hearts and souls. They will always be better caregivers for the elderly rather that the Euro culture which has a 200 billion dollar industry warehousing their elderly.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just giving you facts and a taste of first hand reality.
I have two "kids." They are now in their later twenties, but their age doesn't stop making them "kids" in the eyes of their parents. They're just not young kids anymore. Either way they are children for the parents no matter what the age, and what you seem to be "forgetting" is that the issue about these young adults is that they were brought here as young kids and now -- after all this time -- to deport them and/or separate them from their parents (or vice versa) is generally considered a rather draconian thing to do according to the majority of Americans who are against ending DACA. The wrong thing to do in any case...
Most "dreamers" are in fact enrolled in higher education, which might make for a better reason to call them "dreamers." Most college kids are. Regardless the rhetoric, harsh or not, a matter of opinion. Calling illegal immigrants "rapists and murderers" might have been a little harsh, so maybe terms not as harsh helps to balance the scales a bit. I don't know, but regardless the rhetoric chosen, the issue is not so hard to understand or decide upon if you consider the facts for what they are, plain and simple. The ACTUAL reason most people don't have the heartburn over DACA and/or illegal immigrants like Trump does (or did) has little to do with rhetoric and more to do with the facts.
We as a nation have an obligation to choose right from wrong when it comes to matters of the human condition, because we are all humans regardless where we were born. Some just a lot more fortunate than others...
So, you're okay with the possible of millions attached to these young adults moving on in? Hell, if you check my DNA I'd bet I'm a relative of millions of others, let's just toss the door open and let them in as well since we don't want to be "draconian" about it and we're all "people". How about you pay for it all?
Yeah, these DACA people are someone's kids, so what? So are you,I and everyone else. At what point do they stop being someone's "baby" and actually stand on their own?
We allowed this DACA situation to happen but it needs to be cut off at them.
I certainly would not want an illegal alien taking care of a loved one of mine. There are plenty of americans who are nurses but some hospitals would rather pay less to an illegal alien and then charge the patient the same amount and pocket the profit. The mindset that you have of wanting cheap labor is the same mindset of someone who supported slavery 200 years ago.
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So, you're okay with the possible of millions attached to these young adults moving on in? Hell, if you check my DNA I'd bet I'm a relative of millions of others, let's just toss the door open and let them in as well since we don't want to be "draconian" about it and we're all "people". How about you pay for it all?
Yeah, these DACA people are someone's kids, so what? So are you,I and everyone else. At what point do they stop being someone's "baby" and actually stand on their own?
We allowed this DACA situation to happen but it needs to be cut off at them.
That can only happen if you make them citizens.
We can continue on as things are - allow them to keep working and producing and paying taxes without allowing their entire extended family to come on over.
The reason the politicians keep kicking the illegal immigration can down the road is the fact that the entire elderly health care industry is driven by cheap labor with a few medical specialists supervising the entire operation.
I don't care how much money or health insurance you have, you could never afford to have an American citizen providing daily care for your elderly grandma while she slowly deteriorates with dementia for 5-7 years.
If the illegals and DACAs were all shipped back to Mexico like the haters want, the entire nursing home, elderly, intensive, extensive care system would collapse. The business model for the operation is based on a low, fixed labor cost.
The politicians have an option. They could throw billions and billions of dollars at Medicaid to bring the bottom line wages up to living wage standards. But the odds of them doing that are slim to none and slim just left town.
You know what? If they did bring the wages up to standards, the Latinas would still get preferential hiring because the are so good at taking care of elders. It's a natural part of their culture and a known fact in the industry. They grew up as kids at their grandmas and grandpas knees and were bread to have respect and reverence for the elderly. It's bred into their hearts and souls. They will always be better caregivers for the elderly rather that the Euro culture which has a 200 billion dollar industry warehousing their elderly.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just giving you facts and a taste of first hand reality.
Add to this the lawn care workers, gardeners, child care workers, farm workers, restaurant workers, construction workers--all that cheap labor that businesses love...and this is why the GOP is not going to vote to deport these people. They have successfully used them as the boogie-men to garner votes, but when it comes time to actually vote on it at a time when they have the numbers to really follow through on their promises, they will demur.
Kind of like repealing the ACA. It's great as a campaign rallying cry and a way to stir up the gullible masses, but the reality is something else all together. The GOP will pass some form of DACA and Trump will sign it. That's the reality.
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