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Old 09-03-2017, 07:59 PM
 
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Ah, just as I suspected....amnesty once again. How are they working without using a fake or stolen SS number or working for cash evading taxes? Aren't those crimes? Is that just to be swept under the rug? So managing to evade the law for a long time should get them a pass on our immigration laws? They have already proven that they are liars and had no respect for our laws but we should allow them to remain here? How are Americans to get their jobs back?


I want the wall also but not based on rewarding law breakers.
DACA kids got SS numbers from the federal government they are not using fake SS numbers. They are granted the right to work.

 
Old 09-03-2017, 07:59 PM
 
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If I'm not mistaken, and I could be, didn't you support Hillary Clinton in the last election?

You are very mistaken. I am a conservative. I never have voted for a Democrat and I certainly didn't vote for Hillary.
 
Old 09-03-2017, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Austin
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You are very mistaken. I am a conservative. I never had voted for a Democrat and I certainly didn't vote for Hillary.
Sorry. I stand corrected.
 
Old 09-03-2017, 08:01 PM
 
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DACA is simply not fair to legal aliens!
 
Old 09-03-2017, 08:03 PM
 
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DACA kids got SS numbers from the federal government they are not using fake SS numbers. They are granted the right to work.

I never said they didn't. I was speaking of the illegal aliens that someone in here claimed should remain here because they have been here for over 10 years, are raising a family and have been working here for years. Try to keep up.


The DACA's should never have been given SS numbers nor should they been given work permits. That was illegal.
 
Old 09-03-2017, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I don't agree with this. DACA kids are not the problem. They have already been vetted and in society. This was done to appease Trump's base. He has to hold onto the 30-35% who still support him or its all over.

Any Trumpsters who think DACA kids are really a big problem try to intelligently explain why. I said intelligently.
Many "DACA kids" who have been allowed legal status have committed horrible crimes. One violent crime committed by an illegal is unacceptable.
 
Old 09-03-2017, 08:05 PM
 
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That's cruel. They did the right thing, came out and registered with the authorities, contributed to their communities - and then this. How cold can you be?

There are no good reasons for not grandfathering in the people that already registered. You could choose to not allow any new recipients of the program, but to throw out the young people who did right by their fellow Americans is just wrong.
 
Old 09-03-2017, 08:06 PM
 
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Trumpsters? They are here illegally therefore they are a part of our illegal immigration problem. Trump's base? Shouldn't every red blooded, patriotic American want our immigration laws respected and enforced? Allowing these DACAs to remain here rewards their parents for bringing them here illegally and sets a precedence that all you have to do is drag your kids over the border and you are home free.

Last I read there are between 700,000 and 800,000 DACAs. That's how many jobs that should go to Americans instead.
DACA only rewards the kids not the parents. You are wrong.

The DACA kids were brought by their parents. Seriously you are going to say the kids are law breakers?

We need to build a secure border I am all for that.

This is all about appeasing to Trump's base which in your case worked like a charm. Most Americans don't believe a knee jerk reaction to a complex issue like immigration is the best way to go.
 
Old 09-03-2017, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Many "DACA kids" who have been allowed legal status have committed horrible crimes. One crime by an illegal is unacceptable.
Source?
 
Old 09-03-2017, 08:06 PM
 
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Donors have already paid the pols of both parties for DACA. RINOs will have some splainin' to do if they don't pass something. Ask Ryan and Rubio.
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