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Originally Posted by Mason3000;49399256[COLOR="RoyalBlue"
]Universal is only a no-brainer to those who've never used it. It's an ideological thing. Like communism, it sounds good on paper, but isn't so great in practice. I spent almost 20 years in countries where people did everything possible to ensure their own families never had to use it & the ongoing joke was that your last dying words if you'd been in accident were "Private....hospital". [/color]
There are a lot if issues like this that seem so silly if you're looking at them through a biased, partisan lens. Why would people who care about the working class vote in favor of the minimum wage when we know it was designed to keep workers out of the job force & cause unemployment? Why would Blacks, immigrants or the poor support Planned Parenthood when it was designed to target their children specifically? Why would people who claim to be against racism, call themselves Progressives when we know their ideology was founded on White supremacy? Why would people who claim to be pro-worker defend NAFTA or the TPP? Why would people who claim to be pro-worker continually call working class people "uneducated" or "deplorable"? Why would people who claim to be for free speech support censorship of conservatives? These puzzling questions cut both ways my friend.
The annual price tag for single payer health care in the Golden State would be a whopping $400 billion.
The total amount of money allocated for the California state budget for the coming fiscal year is $179.5 billion.
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The good news is that this study wasn't conducted by some right wing or libertarian group, but the Democrat super majority controlled California state legislature.
Who knows why some Republicans vote against their best interest. My neighbor is a Trump voter and was saying he was worried the Republicans would take his healthcare away. I told him by voting for Trump, that's what he was voting for. Some people got carried away by the hype of cutting welfare etc. there's lots of misinformation out there. They liked the fact that Trump told them what they wanted to hear. My suggestion is before voting, READ THEIR PLATFORM. It's online and in black and white. If you like medicare and social security why in the heck would you ever vote for a party who wants to end those programs? THINK PEOPLE. If you are so confused on who to vote for, then don't vote and do us all a favor.
The working class votes against those policies because they don't benefit the working class. Welfare and universal healthcare are policies that look good on paper, but play out differently when put into practice. Welfare is essentially slavery of the poor and universal healthcare also requires other people pay for that healthcare to go to someone else.
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Regardless, I am totally against the welfare state.
I want all welfare done away with. Work or starve. Hunger is a great motivator.
If that were true, then how come Africa's starvation period didn't cause that continent to become the planet's economic powerhouse today? Especially Ethiopia and Somalia. Where's are all the "tomorrow's industry today" type jobs in Addis Ababa and Mogadishu?
The annual price tag for single payer health care in the Golden State would be a whopping $400 billion.
The total amount of money allocated for the California state budget for the coming fiscal year is $179.5 billion.
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The good news is that this study wasn't conducted by some right wing or libertarian group, but the Democrat super majority controlled California state legislature.
Evidence like that blows the OP's thread out of the water. What he says is a no brainer looks more like something someone with no brain would fall for.
I know that this is going to sound really off the wall to you.....
But there is actually a school of thought that says that giving people money for simply existing and sitting on their asses doing nothing doesn't really "help" them in the long run. But instead creates a permanent sense of learned helplessness and generational dependency.
Odd....huh?
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