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Originally Posted by T0103E
So if Walmart claims ownership over an entire territory, takes your money by force, and gives you whatever goods and services they decide to give you, you're the robber when you object to it?
The state has no more legitimacy over us and our property than Walmart does.
Strawman and false equivalency in the same post, impressive
The Cheeto is part of the problem, not part of the solution
I don't disagree but he is/was not the only part of the problem. I still get condemned because I refused to continue to vote for those who are a part of the problem.
Right-wingers always pull that "self-made man" BS. They hate the "evil" government and claim it does nothing for anyone, but have no problem using government infrastructure, depending upon the government-run military for safety, the government-funded police for the same thing, the government run FDA to prevent their food and medicine from being poison, etc. The hypocrisy from them is laughable, and none of them ever have the guts to move to a 3rd world failed stated without an "evil government." No, they'd rather have all of the benefits while whining about having to chip in to pay for them.
Ugh... most right-wingers are like that angry, loud, ignorant "friend" many people have who gladly eats all the food other people pay for at a party, and who whines about ever having to pay his fair share for the food. Mooches.
Totally agree. The " no man is an island " cliche comes to mind.
I'll just bet your net worth is at least a hundred times what mine is. Care to send my some money and spread the wealth around a bit?
Where do you draw the line? To someone who makes 15K a year, YOU are the rich guy that needs to be brought down, if we are going by your wage envy philosophies.
So here is a question for you: how much should Average Joe be allowed to make before he becomes an evil rich person? Give me a number... 5K a year? 10K? 20K? 50K? 100K? 500K? Who decides? You?
The issue for me isn't how much a person makes, but how fair the tax structure and loop holes are.
There's also a need to "stick it" to people beneath you on the socio-economic scale in America that dominates people's thinking.
Many people here in this nation won't support anything from affordable healthcare to heaven only knows what else because then some "poor" somewhere might not starve to death or die of illness, and they just can't have that. There's a sick need in this nation to have somebody beneath you to hate and look down upon, so any policy that elevated everyone will be voted against since there's a chance that "those people" might not suffer as much, and then you'd lose your "well earned" edge over them.
Just look around at all the hatred of the poor that you see on these forums and the delusional belief in the Just World Fallacy, where "everyone gets what they deserve." It's laughably wrong and easily disproven, but it motivates people heavily in America; they don't want to vote for any policy that risks having "lesser people" not suffer because they honestly think "they must have done something to deserve it." Sic
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Agreed. But then again, most CD members( not me that's for sure) are the top 1% wealthiest, most successful people on the planet! All were born into squalor and below 3rd world poverty; abandoned at age 7, and by nothing other than hard work and their God given awesomeness, rose to the top 1% by putting in 250hour work weeks while getting their 4th Ph.D! ALL without one nickel of financial help, one iota of help, assistance, guidance, and good fortune! I'm shocked that there aren't movies and books about their ashes-to-glory rise; alone without ANY help of ANY kind.
BTW i should give my brother a heads up that, apparently, there is a glut of 6 figure jobs in America that are unfilled, due to all those lazy, shiftless, struggling folks that are too dang lazy to take one of those millions of unfilled 6 figure jobs! I'm sure he could march right into a F500 company and be Executive VP by noon!! Those lazy poor are content to live the luxurious lifestyle in their 10000 sq ft Hamptons mansions all funded by welfare! Who knew?
Thank you for proving my point. I said there's no difference in legitimacy between the two, and your response is just an assertion that they're not the same. Please explain how the government has the right to give people goods and services they never asked for and force them to pay for it, but Walmart doesn't.
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