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Old 09-04-2017, 12:42 PM
 
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I've not heard that before. However, Libertarian, or not, these people are paying for the public schools, so they have a right to send their kids there. You want to see hypocrites go to Denver, Boulder, or Pueblo.
What's going on in Denver, Boulder, or Pueblo?
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Old 09-04-2017, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Trieste
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Also, as I've mentioned before. Stress. People in Canada are not stressed about paying thousands of dollars because they get ill.

My mother, two brain tumours, breast cancer, both hips replaced, kidney cancer, among other issues over the years...cost out of pocket? Just 30 dollars a month for the portion of prescriptions that her private insurance she had through work , now pension, doesn't cover. If she did not have that private insurance, our provincial plan, would most likely be used.


Fair PharmaCare Plan - Province of British Columbia
wait wait...
it seems you enjoy all this satanic socialist system?!?!!?
how dare you??!!

shouldn't be better if Canada spent those taxes for military?

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Old 09-04-2017, 12:43 PM
 
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Raise taxes? Why don't we just print, print, print. It's what we did for Wall Street. The idea that we can cut, cut, cut to boost stock prices is NOT sustainable long term. Where are the people going to get the money to buy the products you produce when all the jobs are gone?

I know, you don't care because right now you have yours and the future is not your problem. I say screw that. It is.
They say 49% of Americans don't pay taxes, and that is for many reasons but how about able bodied people who take from the system instead get out and work and contribute to society.

LOL, I care as much as those people care about me. Why do think I should be responsible for my family AND the families of able bodied people who either have kids they can't afford to have or are too damn lazy to work or people who didn't have enough brains to think about, plan and take action to make a better life for themselves. Did they actually think they could live the good like on a cashiers job?
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Old 09-04-2017, 12:44 PM
 
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I highly doubt cashier made their life decision based on what America needs lol. But lets go with your reasoning. I would choose to be an engineer because I want more out of life than a cashiers job can support. Easy peasy CHOICE
You only quoted a part of my reply. What happens when everyone chooses this? What happens to engineer jobs when 20 million are seeking 5 million jobs?
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Old 09-04-2017, 12:46 PM
 
Location: No Coordinates Found
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I highly doubt cashier made their life decision based on what America needs lol. But lets go with your reasoning. I would choose to be an engineer because I want more out of life than a cashiers job can support. Easy peasy CHOICE
Your Engineering career won't be enough. That's part of the human condition [problem]. The more we have, the more we want. Even with that engineering career, you will live differently might not necessarily better.

More $$$ does not, nor will it ever mean = better.
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Old 09-04-2017, 12:46 PM
 
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Thomas Frank asked this years ago, wondering why Americans vote against their best interests:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%2...with_Kansas%3F

However, at the present moment in time, I think another factor is that the working class has become so mentally lazy, so uninformed, so gullible, that they're easily swayed.
Translation: you're calling them stupid

I'd like to know how people who consider themselves "intelligent" think they can win people over to their party with name calling and disdain? I guess they're used to abusing their supporters like that and they've never paid the price until 2016. Just like they think African Americans are in the bag for them, they thought previously blue wall states were in the bag too. Well, they got a wake up call and they still don't get it.
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Old 09-04-2017, 12:48 PM
 
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Let's follow this line of logic, everyone tries to be an engineer, gets the schooling they need, gets the grades, but only 10% of them can get jobs as engineers (because they all can't be engineers). What are the other 90% supposed to do?

What you describe is basically Social Darwinism, where those who can't claw their way to the top should get nothing. Most aren't okay with that
LAME ^^^

AGAIN, I highly doubt cashier made their life decision based on what America needs lol. There will always be competition for jobs.
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Old 09-04-2017, 12:48 PM
 
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I object to having to uproot my entire life, quit my job, move away from friends and family, all because people who happen to live near me want to force me to go along with their whims, and then act as if they're doing nothing wrong. If you want me to do something, make your case, don't hide behind the government. If you want to force me to pay for the things you want, or do what you want me to do, at least do it yourself.
I am incapable of building a highway bridge across a major river.

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Plus, you can't say "we" want something unless everyone in that "we" category actually wants it. You want something, and maybe a lot of others want it, and you believe that makes it okay to force it on others who don't, and to dismiss them.
Dismiss them? You don't even really want what you claim to want. You do not want to live in the society you pretend to want. Nothing you own is secure in the society you pretend to want. We have advanced to where we can get past your moat.
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Old 09-04-2017, 12:49 PM
 
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I object to having to uproot my entire life, quit my job, move away from friends and family, all because people who happen to live near me want to force me to go along with their whims, and then act as if they're doing nothing wrong. If you want me to do something, make your case, don't hide behind the government. If you want to force me to pay for the things you want, or do what you want me to do, at least do it yourself.

Plus, you can't say "we" want something unless everyone in that "we" category actually wants it. You want something, and maybe a lot of others want it, and you believe that makes it okay to force it on others who don't, and to dismiss them.
You do have to consider that part of the reason you object to having to uproot your life is because of the situation you were born into which is, in part, due to the government that you're criticizing.

I suspect, you would be more willing to uproot your life had you been born into different circumstances.

Again, you are free to renounce your citizenship, avoid being responsible for paying for these things, and still be able to receive some of them.
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Old 09-04-2017, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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I am incapable of building a highway bridge across a major river.

Dismiss them? You don't even really want what you claim to want. You do not want to live in the society you pretend to want. Nothing you own is secure in the society you pretend to want. We have advanced to where we can get past your moat.
Why is nothing secure? Everyone has the right to defend themselves and others from criminals.
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