Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 09-02-2017, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Cannes
2,452 posts, read 2,381,116 times
Reputation: 1620

Advertisements

I think by now everyone is tired of Kim Jong-un and his silly threats. Why don't we just take him out , give North Korea to South Korea. Then get rid of Raul Castro and Maduro.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-02-2017, 08:55 PM
 
79,907 posts, read 44,191,640 times
Reputation: 17209
Start in your own backyard.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-02-2017, 08:58 PM
 
45,230 posts, read 26,437,203 times
Reputation: 24979
Quote:
Originally Posted by survivingearth View Post
I think by now everyone is tired of Kim Jong-un and his silly threats. Why don't we just take him out , give North Korea to South Korea. Then get rid of Raul Castro and Maduro.
What's stopping ya tough guy?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-02-2017, 08:59 PM
 
34,300 posts, read 15,649,302 times
Reputation: 13053
Why don't immigrants do the job we don't want to do when it really counts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-02-2017, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
6,542 posts, read 4,094,282 times
Reputation: 3806
Because we can't just give land to anyone we want.

For starters, I hold true to the much older idea that problems in other countries are not our responsibility. I do not believe that we have the right to waltz in to North Korea, topple their [unbelievable ****ty] government, and then just hand the land over to South Korea. Everyone has a right to self government, and as much as the North Korean government is taking that away from it's people, that doesn't mean some foreign power (us) can decide we know what's best for them.

Per the more pragmatic, less ideological issue, it's not nearly as simple as you just made it. An invasion of North Korea would not be over in a day. We'd attack, and they would have time to retaliate. And let's be clear, they could probably do so before we actually even landed. In that time, they could fire artillery into Seoul. Now, we could evacuate the city, but North Korea would notice that, and begin firing during the evacuation (since they'd know the only reason we'd evacuate South Korea's capital is to defend the people living there from a North Korean retaliation to our invasion).

They could also fire missiles at both South Korea and Japan, who are our allies. Some of our best in the region. I believe South Korea is in our top 5 trading partners, and I'd imagine Japan is up there as well. And make no mistake, a military operation against North Korea would almost certainly implicate them, which would have major economic impacts.

And it wouldn't be just the three of us. We all trade with countries all over the world. A full scale war would cause a global economic depression, or at least a recession.

Is any of this worth it because Kim sometimes throws a tantrum, but ultimate does actually do anything? I don't think so.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-02-2017, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
2,776 posts, read 1,841,702 times
Reputation: 857
Quote:
Originally Posted by survivingearth View Post
I think by now everyone is tired of Kim Jong-un and his silly threats. Why don't we just take him out , give North Korea to South Korea. Then get rid of Raul Castro and Maduro.
Why do you think that we are entitled to take someone out, to destroy a country for our need and get rid of the leaders of another country? Are we the standard of the human morality and the world' judge? Are we the Vicar of God on earth? Or, we are just a bunch of ignorant and arrogant egoistic people that assume the whole world must serve us and our interests, otherwise they are bad guys?
If the the US wouldn't have bullied NK with military drills nearby them, NK wouldn't have threatened to launch their missiles. Just leave NK alone and the current crisis will disappear itself.

Last edited by musiqum; 09-02-2017 at 10:56 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-02-2017, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Canada
14,735 posts, read 15,033,548 times
Reputation: 34871
Quote:
Originally Posted by survivingearth View Post
I think by now everyone is tired of Kim Jong-un and his silly threats. Why don't we just take him out , give North Korea to South Korea. Then get rid of Raul Castro and Maduro.

Who is we?

You are making assumptions about "everyone" and proposing that the solution to tyranny and oppression is to combat it with worse tyranny and oppression.

As previously stated in post #2, clean up your own yard - and don't presume to speak or act on behalf of "everyone".


.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-02-2017, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
2,776 posts, read 1,841,702 times
Reputation: 857
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoisite View Post
Who is we?

You are making assumptions about "everyone" and proposing that the solution to tyranny and oppression is to combat it with worse tyranny and oppression.

As previously stated in post #2, clean up your own yard - and don't presume to speak or act on behalf of "everyone"..
Spot on!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-02-2017, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Cannes
2,452 posts, read 2,381,116 times
Reputation: 1620
wow hold your horses...Don't you guys want people to be free? Those people in NK are suffering through the hands of a dictator.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-02-2017, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Cannes
2,452 posts, read 2,381,116 times
Reputation: 1620
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoisite View Post
Who is we?

You are making assumptions about "everyone" and proposing that the solution to tyranny and oppression is to combat it with worse tyranny and oppression.

As previously stated in post #2, clean up your own yard - and don't presume to speak or act on behalf of "everyone".


.
How is it worse if it will make things better. Or you gonna say that people in those places are happy. Cuba might be an exception, but NK and Venezuela people are desperate
My backyard is clean
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:23 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top