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Old 09-05-2017, 11:36 AM
 
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wtf?!

U.S. Virgin Islands seizing guns, ammo in anticipation of Irma | NOLA.com
The governor of the U.S. Virgin Islands has ordered the territory's national guard to begin seizing guns and ammunition from citizens in preparation for Hurricane Irma's landfall.

In an executive order signed Monday, Gov. Kenneth Mapp instructed Adjutant General Deborah Howell "to take whatever actions she considers necessary to carry out the assigned mission" of maintaining and restoring public order.

"The Adjutant General is authorized and directed to seize arms, ammunition, explosives, incendiary material and any other property that may be required by the military forces for the performance of this emergency mission," the governor said in the order.
link to the actual order

why do 'military forces' require arms from private citizens to perform this 'emergency mission'?
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Old 09-05-2017, 11:40 AM
 
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And they know who has guns? Means illegal search and seizure.

I would ignore that order.
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Old 09-05-2017, 11:41 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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The authorities should confirm there are enough coffins for the unfortunate few that attempt to disarm the citizens.
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Old 09-05-2017, 11:42 AM
 
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Checking, I see that registration of all firearms is required in the VI. Coincidence? OK, anti-gunners - make your case that registration is *not* a prelude to confiscation.

This just solidifies the reasons for those living in free states under the US Constitution to never register our weapons.
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Old 09-05-2017, 11:44 AM
 
Location: PSL
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Hide them. Claim they were lost in a tragic boating accident.
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Old 09-05-2017, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Government being more dangerous than a cat 5 hurricane.

Yeah, sounds about right.
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Old 09-05-2017, 11:45 AM
 
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Checking, I see that registration of all firearms is required in the VI. Coincidence? OK, anti-gunners - make your case that registration is *not* a prelude to confiscation.

This just solidifies the reasons for those living in free states under the US Constitution to never register our weapons.
indeed..
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Old 09-05-2017, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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It's an "open-ended" edict. The governor has full discretion.

Hitler would be so proud.
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Old 09-05-2017, 11:57 AM
 
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The order is phrased not that citizens are to surrender their guns, but that authorities are to seize the weapons. The order is for the National Guardsmen to actively seek out the property of the citizenry and take it by force. No requirement is set forth to document what they take from who (...or is it whom?)

And no mention that anything seized will be returned after the storm.

Virgin Island Code: http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/vicode/

Look at Title 23, Chapters 5 and 19

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Old 09-05-2017, 12:02 PM
 
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I am guessing the executive order George Bush made got overturned by Obama or doesn't apply to US territories?
Don't know the name of the order, but it basically said, "No law enforcement official under the USA may seize weapons during states of emergency"
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