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Old 09-08-2017, 01:40 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
It isn't racism and it isn't racial inferiority. And it's not an exercise. Make something else up.
It's an absurd thread that says conservatives deny racism.
America is the land of opportunity. What I am giving you is the opportunity to explain why there is a big difference in the rate of out of wedlock births between blacks and whites, assuming that blacks are inherently equal to whites.

Here you have a forum that represents an exchange of ideas and opinions. If conservatives are misunderstood as being "racist" here is the opportunity to demonstrate that you are not. That means giving you the opportunity to explain performance gaps between blacks and whites without implying inherent racial inferiority.

Again, the example I used in the previous post. If one blames blacks embrace of liberalism to be the problem for blacks, that implies that whites were smart enough not to embrace liberalism to the same degree. If we are assuming no inferiority of intellect, between the races, then how could whites have been smart enough not to fall for liberalism like blacks? Hence, liberalism is eliminated from the possibilities when one controls for a superiority or inferiority of natural intellect between blacks and whites.

 
Old 09-08-2017, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Texas
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So had the drug users not been arrested and convicted they would have stayed in the home parenting responsibly? And provided a stable environment for their offspring?
A better chance of doing so yes.
 
Old 09-08-2017, 01:42 PM
 
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[quote=Loveshiscountry;49460335]White men did not benefit from it, they were hurt by it. By your insane logic everyone gained. That's impossible.

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Black colleges and universities have to have white students. male or female. There are even scholarships for whites to attend these schools.


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Tennessee State University is so down in its minority—white—population that the State is now funding “scholarships for Caucasian Tennessee residents.” These scholarships are rooted to the recent outcome of a lengthy court case known as the Geier case that has called over the last two decades for desegregation of Tennessee’s “dual educational” system of which TSU was a part. Long range plans for the desegregation have included assuring a balanced student body. During the mid-1980s the agreement put in motion a new system of other-race recruitment: black recruiters for white colleges and white recruiters for black. To those ends the Geier called for stepped up scholarships and financial aid to boost the process. In late 2006, the Geier case was finally dismissed on the grounds that the State had in fact effectively undone its dual system, thanks to the urgings of the Geier case over the years. The scholarships for whites cover room and board for eligible candidates.

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Diversity Scholarships for both undergraduate and graduate white students are a special program of Alabama State University and Alabama A&M University. The goal is to boost enrollment of those underrepresented in the school: whites and Native Americans, specifically at ASU and “Caucasians” at Alabama A&M. In fact as the result of a discrimination case, a federal court judge in 1995 commanded both ASU and Alabama A&M University to vigorously diversify.[SIZE=2]1[/SIZE] The court case raised scrutiny over the fact that both schools had almost exclusive black student bodies and had been remiss in recruiting “other-race” students, especially whites. Since then large chunks of money have been earmarked each year to attract white students. Initially GPA requirements were set at 2.0, according to the Chronicle of Higher Education, so low as to offend black students required to comply with a GPA minimum of 2.7. Since then, in response to threats of legal repercussions, the universities have raised GPA reqs for whites. Scholarships may cover full or partial tuition/

source: The White Man's Guide to Getting a Minority Scholarship




and you clearly don't understand what "exclusivity" means. There is nothing about affirmative action that means "only blacks get handouts". Meaning affirmative action is not exclusive to blacks. People of all races benefit from affirmative action. Stop trotting this filibuster argument.
 
Old 09-08-2017, 01:42 PM
 
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Every race incident that happens in the news, you can always count on white conservatives implying that racism doesn't exist, that it's a conspiracy conjured up by liberals to harm "race relations" (I really hate that phrase). Is every incident of white-on-minority racism fake news or just minorities complaining for complaining's sake? So who are the actual racists then, if it's not white supremacists?

At the Charlottesville white power rally, who were all those white guys with the white power symbols voting for? Clinton? Did they all vote for Obama? Were they all "color blind, we're all just Americans trying to get along" type people?

No, you can't. Your premise is wrong.

Conservatives don't believe or imply that racism doesn't exist. What conservatives reject is the constant slander from the Left that accuses all or most conservatives of being racist. They do it constantly and it's total nonsense. Yet this is the tactic the Left now resorts to (pure Alinsky) to bully their opposition into silence, submission and non-existence.

Meanwhile plenty of actual racism gets swept under the rug by the Left.

It's intellectually dishonest, completely illogical and mendacious as hell. But this is the Fun House mirror world that Identity Politics keeps you trapped in.

Understand now?
 
Old 09-08-2017, 01:43 PM
 
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A better chance of doing so yes.
Have you spent much time with these drug users?

I don't agree with the war on drugs because it was an obscene amount of money thrown at something that would not work anyway.
 
Old 09-08-2017, 01:46 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
Single parenthood among blacks rose from 22% to 31% from 1960 to 1968. No war on drugs then. That started around 1971 and we saw the first significant bump in the incarceration rate starting in 1976.

The bolded part you made up too.
It was given a name later on. But the point still stands.


blacks+drugs=criminal issue
whites+drugs=rehab and decriminalization


And Jim crow laws were still out there as well in the 60's. So there's that too.


Nice try.
 
Old 09-08-2017, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Indentured Servant View Post
America is the land of opportunity. What I am giving you is the opportunity to explain why there is a big difference in the rate of out of wedlock births between blacks and whites, assuming that blacks are inherently equal to whites.
I asked you the same thing. You answered and were wrong. Not out of wedlock, but single parent. Another poster brought up part of it. The war on drugs has hurt, slightly but it has hurt.

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Here you have a forum that represents an exchange of ideas and opinions. If conservatives are misunderstood as being "racist" here is the opportunity to demonstrate that you are not. That means giving you the opportunity to explain performance gaps between blacks and whites without implying inherent racial inferiority.
Why ask me since I'm not implying inferiority? That's just something else you've made up.

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Originally Posted by Indentured Servant View Post
Again, the example I used in the previous post. If one blames blacks embrace of liberalism to be the problem for blacks, that implies that whites were smart enough not to embrace liberalism to the same degree. If we are assuming no inferiority of intellect, between the races, then how could whites have been smart enough not to fall for liberalism like blacks?
It's not liberalism, it's progressivism that's the problem.
You do inadvertantly bring up a point. Blacks aren't individuals when it comes to politics.
 
Old 09-08-2017, 01:48 PM
 
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No, you can't. Your premise is wrong.

Conservatives don't believe or imply that racism doesn't exist. What conservatives reject is the constant slander from the Left that accuses all or most conservatives of being racist. They do it constantly and it's total nonsense. Yet this is the tactic the Left now resorts to (pure Alinsky) to bully their opposition into silence, submission and non-existence.

Meanwhile plenty of actual racism gets swept under the rug by the Left.

It's intellectually dishonest, completely illogical and mendacious as hell. But this is the Fun House mirror world that Identity Politics keeps you trapped in.

Understand now?
Conservatives believe that racism does not exist......AS A REAL PROBLEM, which is, for all intents and purposes, like saying that it does not exist.
 
Old 09-08-2017, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It was given a name later on. But the point still stands.


blacks+drugs=criminal issue
whites+drugs=rehab and decriminalization.
Again you made up the rehab part. Not even a nice try.


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And Jim crow laws were still out there as well in the 60's. So there's that too.
Nice try.
Jim Crow laws have nothing to do with single parenthood but do have an impact as far as the the economic gap imo. Stands to reason the ones who were economically affected dont have money so their kids didn't. Money leads to more opportunities. Each generation though the Jim Crow Laws have less and less impact.

You still haven't done much explaining in CONTEXT.
 
Old 09-08-2017, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Conservatives believe that racism does not exist......AS A REAL PROBLEM, which is, for all intents and purposes, like saying that it does not exist.
That's just something you;ve made up and don't have any proof of. Why believe you when you've been wrong too often and have an agenda that doesn't include the truth?

Just another flawed attempt to deflect from discussing policy. Progressive policies are known failures so lets falsely play the race card.
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