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Old 09-08-2017, 03:52 PM
 
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So what? There is no law against being a racist or practicing racism in your private life.

 
Old 09-08-2017, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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The key word is "exclusive"...affirmative action was never EXCLUSIVE to blacks. People of ALL RACES benefitted from it. Including whites. By your logic, you should be against any effort to make America environmentality greener because it might help some blacks. And you are wrong that "Affirmative Action was implemented to help blacks."


From the National Conference of State Legislatures:





Poor white males even fall into this. There is nothing about EXCLUSIVITY to black anywhere in affirmative action.
Affirmative Action only hurts those that are obvious, through appearance, minorities. If people want to make use of AA policies, they have to be aware that some people in the future will wonder if they got to where they are, not through their abilities, but because of their heritage.

If there never was an AA policy, that could never happen. You come across a minority doctor, for example and your first thought would be that he must be qualified in order to get through medical school. It's not racist to think that. It would be racist to avoid going to a doctor because they were a minority, though.

Everyone has some degree of prejudice. Depending on what that prejudice is and how they act on it is when you could be considered a racist.

Do you have any examples of poor white males that have benefitted from Affirmative Action, and how they benefitted?
 
Old 09-08-2017, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Every race incident that happens in the news, you can always count on white conservatives implying that racism doesn't exist,
Who are you talking about? I've never heard anyone say that and I know lots of white conservatives. Racism is a human trait. It's always been here and always will be here.

Racism in the USA actually got much worse during Obama's eight disastrous years.
 
Old 09-08-2017, 04:31 PM
 
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Affirmative Action only hurts those that are obvious, through appearance, minorities. If people want to make use of AA policies, they have to be aware that some people in the future will wonder if they got to where they are, not through their abilities, but because of their heritage.

If there never was an AA policy, that could never happen. You come across a minority doctor, for example and your first thought would be that he must be qualified in order to get through medical school. It's not racist to think that. It would be racist to avoid going to a doctor because they were a minority, though.

Everyone has some degree of prejudice. Depending on what that prejudice is and how they act on it is when you could be considered a racist.
Affirmative Action doesn't take the tests and exams for you. Affirmative Action doesn't complete your residency. To simply kill off that attempt at a tangent.
 
Old 09-08-2017, 04:51 PM
 
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Affirmative Action doesn't take the tests and exams for you. Affirmative Action doesn't complete your residency. To simply kill off that attempt at a tangent.
But it can let lesser qualified individuals get into the school in the first place. Who would you rather have as your doctor? Someone who got into medical school via AA policies or someone who got into medical school while competing against someone using those AA policies.

And is there any guarantee that once in the program, certain allowances are not given to someone who had a helping hand to get in?
 
Old 09-08-2017, 05:04 PM
 
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But it can let lesser qualified individuals get into the school in the first place.
The same can be said about legacy students. Or students with rich parents that make a huge donation. Why would you only consider the AA person to be less skilled. Are AA students taking different tests once in school?

And again all races AA. Your white male doctor could be an AA person.
 
Old 09-08-2017, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Ok so they dont actually deny it exists, they believe they are they are the most victimized discriminated group (moved goal post, check). So now can you show examples of white conservatives who believe they are the biggest victims of racism and why they believe so.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-is-listening/

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...stians/519135/
 
Old 09-08-2017, 05:20 PM
 
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But it can let lesser qualified individuals get into the school in the first place. Who would you rather have as your doctor? Someone who got into medical school via AA policies or someone who got into medical school while competing against someone using those AA policies.

And is there any guarantee that once in the program, certain allowances are not given to someone who had a helping hand to get in?
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The same can be said about legacy students. Or students with rich parents that make a huge donation. Why would you only consider the AA person to be less skilled. Are AA students taking different tests once in school?

And again all races AA. Your white male doctor could be an AA person.
Who the hell cares as long as your doctor does not suck?
 
Old 09-08-2017, 05:38 PM
 
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Obviously you cannot be honest when you're in a discussion and you're having it handed to you. Make something else up.

I haven't deflected. I correctly called you out for making things up.

I already have.*

I already told you. Single parenthood.* You're not very good at comprehension are you? Rhetorical.
You never explained why single parenthood rates would be different. What is the root cause of the difference? This is not hard....

You are giving superficial responses. If I asked you how did you get that good high paying Engineering job...it's superficial to say you sent a resume. That is not the root cause of getting the job.
 
Old 09-08-2017, 06:06 PM
 
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Who the hell cares as long as your doctor does not suck?
yall go off on these "what about ____" tangents then yall get mad once you can't rebuttal and act like I went off the tangents. Please don't do this. We can move on, because I can read between the lines when I'm right. Who cares, right?
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