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Old 09-08-2017, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Again, because you seem to not understand... the Constitution and Federal Law supercede state laws:


Did You Know It's Legal To Discriminate Against LGBT? - NPR
SCOTUS will rule on that also this fall, undecided at this point but basically the same principal.
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Nope. Again... The baker will win for the same reason restaurants can refuse service to parties with children (age discrimination).
That is not even close to the same issue. Besides DOJ is arguing a violation of first amendment rights, that is not the case with a minor being restricted from certain restaurants purely because of age.
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:31 PM
 
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That is not even close to the same issue.

Please don't start with him,you would think he is trump the way he goes on.
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:33 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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When if comes to employment and federally funded programs. I'm pretty sure that the restaurant is ok if it doesn't hire kids though.
A privately owned bakery is not federally funded. And the restaurants in question decline to serve children (age discrimination). Now what?
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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A privately owned bakery is not federally funded. And the restaurants in question decline to serve children (age discrimination). Now what?
Please read the link I posted. The age discrimination part of the CRA applies to federally funded groups and employment. It has nothing to do with public accommodation laws.
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Old 09-08-2017, 09:41 PM
 
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It is - the State imposes morality on others, but why should someone be forced to help someone they hate?

You have a selective version of self explanatory.
When it's life or death the state can step in otherwise the state should stay out for any and all mandates.
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Old 09-09-2017, 12:07 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Please read the link I posted. The age discrimination part of the CRA applies to federally funded groups and employment. It has nothing to do with public accommodation laws.
Neither does LGBT status. It's not a federally protected class.

Restaurants can refuse to seat/serve children. Wedding services/goods providers can refuse to sell/create wedding goods/services for LGBTs.

The baker will win the case.
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Old 09-09-2017, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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When it's life or death the state can step in otherwise the state should stay out for any and all mandates.
Why? - if you don't like someone, why should you be forced to save their life?

You might think your life is sacred, but do you really have the right to force others to act on that belief?
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Old 09-09-2017, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I have no problem with private businesses deciding who they are going to work with. They are going to lose a lot more business than they are going to gain, and somebody else will fill the void happily. Especially in Colorado, I'm guessing there were more than enough other bakeries for the couple to go to.
So businesses should have the right to show blacks the door and automatically reject black job applicants? Black businesses can respond by treating whites the same way.
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Old 09-09-2017, 12:16 AM
 
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Why? - if you don't like someone, why should you be forced to save their life?

You might think your life is sacred, but do you really have the right to force others to act on that belief?
Sigh, it's self explanatory.
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