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Why didn't the self-righteous people just say " Sorry, can't fit that one into my schedule, the place up the street is pretty good" BUT, NO, we gotta be self righteous and draw attention to ourselves.
The gay couple drama queens and the praying in public, hypocrites behaving like snowflakes deserve each other.
why should they have to lie. They don't want to do business with someone, regardless of the reason, they shouldn't be forced to> I think both sides are flaunting their views. How sad is that? You don't want to do business, fine but it doesn't really make much sense, couple wants to let the world know they feel discriminated against? Just find another bakery.
So, we're agreed. This has nothing to do with slavery. Since no one is sticking a gun to anyone's back. So you can quit spouting off about slavery since, according to your own definition, this is not slavery.
Doesn't matter if it meets chattel slavery. Figuratively the state is holding a gun to a person's head (do this or we destroy your livelihood), making the whole act a violation of UN Anti-Slavery agreements on forced servitude.
Chattel slavery is not the sole form of slavery, indentured servitude is also a recognized form of slavery, and enforced requirement to perform any service against the volition of the person being required to perform that service violates US laws on involuntary servitude. The draft was challenged under US involuntary servitude law and wasn't a shoe in for approval, but relied on longstanding tradition of demanding the able bodied to be drafted into service in times of war or for mutual defense. That said there is no such tradition for baking cakes or any commercial activity, thus the same legal argument does not hold.
why should they have to lie. They don't want to do business with someone, regardless of the reason, they shouldn't be forced to> I think both sides are flaunting their views. How sad is that? You don't want to do business, fine but it doesn't really make much sense, couple wants to let the world know they feel discriminated against? Just find another bakery.
Exactly. If you don't like somebody, just tell them to get the hell out of your bakery, your lunch counter, ...
The sheer number of false equivalencies being peddled by the purported defenders of "religious freedom" is breathtaking. Comparing this to a restaurant refusing to make a non-poppy seed bagel for an allergic customer? Questioning the location of the nearest alternative bakery? Comparing the baker to clergy?
There are an awful number of self-appointed Constitutional scholars who obviously have no legal training or scholarly understanding of the Constitution on this thread.
And once again I will remind you Pedro, that discrimination is not merely inconvenient. It is based in hate and bigotry and should not be allowed. The hatred expressed by some so called Christians shouldn't trample over people's rights, yet so often it has. My wife and I had to go to North Carolina to get married in 2015 before the SCOTUS decision was finally handed down. We traveled over 1000 miles. That's how much we were "inconvenienced" thanks to Texas "Christians" and the wishes of their silent invisible God.
As an aside, the two men who filed this lawsuit in 2012 were going to Massachusetts to get married because same sex marriage was illegal in Colorado. Ironic isn't it, that the baker is being harassed for 5 years by Colorado for not making a cake for the type of wedding that was illegal in Colorado.
And once again I will remind you Pedro, that discrimination is not merely inconvenient. It is based in hate and bigotry and should not be allowed. The hatred expressed by some so called Christians shouldn't trample over people's rights, yet so often it has. My wife and I had to go to North Carolina to get married in 2015 before the SCOTUS decision was finally handed down. We traveled over 1000 miles. That's how much we were "inconvenienced" thanks to Texas "Christians" and the wishes of their silent invisible God.
And, who exactly prevented you from getting married?
Oh, that's right, it would be the GOVERNMENT that blocked you from doing so.
Why do you want to keep giving government the power to allow people to do things when it was the government that prevented gay marriage, prevented blacks from marrying whites, prevented woman from voting, didn't allow native Americans to own land, etc, etc.
A baker can't keep you from being married. A baker can't force you to travel 1,000 miles to get a cake. The only thing a baker can is inactivity - nothing. It's like you insisting that your neighbor should invite you to their party. Sorry, but nobody should have to serve you for convenience to you.
Why give the government, which has been horrible about rights, the power to force people to do something like make a cake?
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