Finally! Justice Dept. Sides With Colorado Baker Sued by Gay Couple (Oregon, employees)

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by Joe90

Do slaves have the option not to be slaves?

Do free men have the right to sell their labor to whomever they want?

[Joe90]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Do free men have the right to sell their labor to whomever they want?

If obeying laws is slavery, then we're all slaves -in which case, the meaning of slavery has been so diluted as to be meaningless.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by jjrose

Which was found to not be the case in employment div v smith where the state won.

Incorrect. That ruling found that the state could deny unemployment benefits to a person fired for violating a state prohibition. Who's claiming unemployment benefits in baker vs. Colorado? No one.

[lvmensch]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Do free men have the right to sell their labor to whomever they want?

Within laws and regulations. Simple is it not?

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

Within laws and regulations. Simple is it not?

Not when the law states you must labor for someone else.

[lvmensch]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Not when the law states you must labor for someone else.

Laws and regulations state the conditions which apply to selling your services. Mine requires both a state license and two business licenses. It also forbids me to discriminate against a number of classes. And it sets limits on what I am allowed to do.

[Joe90]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Not when the law states you must labor for someone else.

Where does the law state you must labour for someone else? - sounds like some odd laws over there.

[TEPLimey]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

And that diabetic, which you don't know, needs to go into your home to get something to eat to keep from going into shock?

Well, I'd say your home, just like a cafe, still isn't an essential service.

Your home is not a place of public accommodation. If you can't grasp that distinction, you are truly lost.

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

Laws and regulations state the conditions which apply to selling your services. Mine requires both a state license and two business licenses. It also forbids me to discriminate against a number of classes. And it sets limits on what I am allowed to do.

So basically "because the law says so"
Laws compelling one to perform labor for another are wrong and akin to slavery.
Why do you feel you can make someone labor for you who doesnt want to? I know, I know because the law says you can

[Goodnight]

Originally Posted by Joe90

If obeying laws is slavery, then we're all slaves -in which case, the meaning of slavery has been so diluted as to be meaningless.

Lighten up, it's a cake.