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Old 09-12-2017, 05:18 PM
 
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And Still Yet, the above statistics and facts persist. And your response to all of this is STILL that it's a combination of culture and white racism?





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pseudoparanormal: Self Fulfilling Prophecy


What has been the impact of the doctrine of white supremacy? What self fulfilling prophecy did it create through the actions of its believers upon blacks the world over?
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:23 PM
 
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:25 PM
 
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ROFLMAO....that's what I thought! Oh, and just for fun, why don't you define "White Supremacy"?


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What has been the impact of the doctrine of white supremacy? What self fulfilling prophecy did it create through the actions of its believers upon blacks the world over?
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:27 PM
 
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ROFLMAO....that's what I thought! Oh, and just for fun, why don't you define "White Supremacy"?
Hopefully you are tickled to death.
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:42 PM
 
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LOL. I knew you couldn't do that either! I doubt any self-respecting "White Supremacist" would want to "dominate" any functional illiterates! The entire premise is absurd and yet people like you that can't even define the term continue to rail about it. Too damn funny!

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Old 09-12-2017, 05:43 PM
 
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Result of American stereotypes of blacks



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Old 09-12-2017, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Is there a disparity in measured IQ among the different race demographics of the US?

Is there a disparity in standardized academic test scores among the different race demographics of the US?

Is there a disparity in average hours worked per year among the different race demographics of the US?

If the answer to any of the above is yes, can we then see if the same disparity(ies) exist in other 1st World industrialized nations, and if so, to what degree do they run parallel to the pattern or in contradiction of it?

If the disparity(ies) is/are different, as in different races in different countries occupy different slots than in the US, can we find any cultural, societal or institutional commonalities among both lower and higher performing/measured groups that could point to culture versus genetics?

Every society has underperforming demographics. They are not all the same race. If genetics are not the common thread, what is?

Tons of variables have to be accounted for before you can prove a null hypothesis on the cause of any or all disparities among various racial demographics, no matter what your ideological bent thinks the causation is. You can no more claim "but racism!!" than you can "but genetics!!" until you account for, analyze and properly evaluate all the variables.

Accusing blacks of being generally more lazy and less intelligent using only vague generalities and this cherry picked statistic or that is as absurd and meaningless as accusing all white and/or conservative people's racism as the sole reason why any black person is not as successful as some arbitrary mean or median. In either direction, intellectual laziness lets preconceived notions substitute for logical validity.
So bad reasoning is... bad reasoning. I think we can all agree on that.
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Andtrying to determine individual outcomes based on membership in a group that you had no choice in (race, geography at birth, etc) is the mother of all self-fulfilling prophecies. That any one individual from a low performing group, whatever that group may be, outperforms everyone, even those who belong to every possible preferred group, points to the fact that individual choices still matter more than group membership. That's why basing evaluations of individuals on what groups they belong to is essentially rubbish.
This is true of course, and important to keep in mind. But who are you arguing with here? Nobody in this thread has claimed that individuals should be evaluated based on their race or that any individual's behavior or level of intelligence can be accurately predicted by their group membership. Hardly anyone, aside from straw men, ever says that.
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Old 09-12-2017, 06:43 PM
 
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pseudoparanormal: Self Fulfilling Prophecy


What has been the impact of the doctrine of white supremacy? What self fulfilling prophecy did it create through the actions of its believers upon blacks the world over?


Oh, the irony.
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Old 09-13-2017, 07:10 AM
 
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This is true of course, and important to keep in mind. But who are you arguing with here? Nobody in this thread has claimed that individuals should be evaluated based on their race or that any individual's behavior or level of intelligence can be accurately predicted by their group membership. Hardly anyone, aside from straw men, ever says that.
Uhm, being Republican (belonging to group) makes you racist? Is this not the argument put forward in this thread, at least implicitly? A percentage of a group has answered a particular poll question, therefore all individuals within that group are suspect.

"...Republicans believe...."

"...all blacks are..."

Same nonsense.
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Old 09-13-2017, 07:19 AM
 
Location: New York
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A nation that has been racist in creating the problem is hardly not going to be racist in its pseudo implementation of a solution.

I do not know why you persist. Why are you continually making post demonstrating that you are a racist? Don't you think we have figured that out by now? What else do you want?
"creating the problem'? explain to me then why Africans never invented the wheel? Never created a written language? never built a two story structure? This was all the case BEFORE a white person ever set foot in Africa.

Also, how do you reconcile the fact that African "kings" hunted and sold their own people?
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