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Old 09-13-2017, 07:30 AM
 
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"creating the problem'? explain to me then why Africans never invented the wheel? Never created a written language? never built a two story structure? This was all the case BEFORE a white person ever set foot in Africa.
You will need to reference these claims, or they will be dismissed out of hand.
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Old 09-13-2017, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Japan
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Uhm, being Republican (belonging to group) makes you racist? Is this not the argument put forward in this thread, at least implicitly? A percentage of a group has answered a particular poll question, therefore all individuals within that group are suspect.

"...Republicans believe...."

"...all blacks are..."

Same nonsense.
OK. I was thinking about racial groups though. Guess I don't care much about the OP's argument or charges of racism. All that interests me here is cutting through the BS and getting at what is really happening with these racial issues.
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Old 09-13-2017, 09:45 AM
 
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"creating the problem'? explain to me then why Africans never invented the wheel? Never created a written language? never built a two story structure? This was all the case BEFORE a white person ever set foot in Africa.

Also, how do you reconcile the fact that African "kings" hunted and sold their own people?
And at the end of the day....what does inventing all those things prove after you are dead? Have you invented a way not to die?

Here is the REAL deal. In nature and biology.....its all a numbers game. Its about continuation and propagation of the species and reproduction. At the end of the day.....THAT IS ALL THAT IT IS ABOUT.

I asked this question before. Which is superior, the sprinter or the marathon runner? Well....you would say it depends on where the finish line is placed. Thus, I ask....where is the finish line for human existence? You might be further ahead, but at what expense to resources? What if you are inventing your way to human destruction? Is there not already things created that can destroy the planet like H Bombs and biologically engineered viruses and such? Maybe whites are sprinting faster towards our destruction. Maybe you are only advancing the present at the expense of the future.....which nets to no real advancement. When the world is destroyed........guess who will have invented the tool to destroy it.....and for that....you want a cookie?

I can almost guarantee that things you have invented will one day destroy BILLIONS of people. Give yourself a big pat on the back.

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Old 09-13-2017, 02:45 PM
 
Location: New York
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You will need to reference these claims, or they will be dismissed out of hand.
Hart "Understanding Human History"
Diamond "Guns, Germs, Steel"
Human BioDiversity Reading List _____________________ HBD Bibliography, Human Biological Diversity Books, References, Sociobiology Reading List, genetic genealogy, DNA ancestry, family tree, SNP ancestry, 23andme, genomics, Evolutionary Psychology, B
Any African history class.

Also, I'm not sure if you dispute this or if you are just trying to keep the discussion serious. If the latter, then thanks, if the former then I really have to ask if this is the first time you are hearing this? It's rather common knowledge.

I've mentioned it a few times on this board, as have others, and usually the "progressives" just roll their eyes and call me a racist, since these facts hurt their prescious "Narrative."
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Old 09-13-2017, 03:19 PM
 
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"creating the problem'? explain to me then why Africans never invented the wheel? Never created a written language? never built a two story structure? This was all the case BEFORE a white person ever set foot in Africa.

Also, how do you reconcile the fact that African "kings" hunted and sold their own people?
I'll note I ignored the above earlier because it is so ignorant, sorry but it is true. Africans had wheels and written languages and structures above two stories. European people come from Africa....We are all Africans. All people have hunted and sold other people throughout human history so there is nothing to reconcile.

It is evident that you are invested in a white supremacy ideology from your posts. I think that is why you did not have a response for 5 hours so had to post again to get one. It is pretty clear that you are very stuck in your ideology considering the post above which is 100% untrue on all points...

If you aren't so stuck in your ideas, you should watch the very long documentaries produced by PBS with Henry Louis Gates. I know that you probably don't consider him a real scholar, you know, since he's black and all lol (he's genetically about 50% European though if that makes you feel better ). But before he got politicized and to this day he is very well regarded as one of the most knowledgeable people in the country in regards to black American literature and history along with the history of Africa and the African diaspora. He had a program produced this past year that deals with most of the myths that you typed above and he discredits them.

Again, we are all the same people. We all come from Africa. So it is very odd to me that you would think that Africans never did the things above when we all come from that continent and Africa has had all those things you mentioned over the past thousands of years.

Africa's Great Civilizations PBS - Henry Louis Gates
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:51 AM
 
Location: New York
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I'll note I ignored the above earlier because it is so ignorant, sorry but it is true. Africans had wheels and written languages and structures above two stories. European people come from Africa....We are all Africans. All people have hunted and sold other people throughout human history so there is nothing to reconcile.

It is evident that you are invested in a white supremacy ideology from your posts. I think that is why you did not have a response for 5 hours so had to post again to get one. It is pretty clear that you are very stuck in your ideology considering the post above which is 100% untrue on all points...

If you aren't so stuck in your ideas, you should watch the very long documentaries produced by PBS with Henry Louis Gates. I know that you probably don't consider him a real scholar, you know, since he's black and all lol (he's genetically about 50% European though if that makes you feel better ). But before he got politicized and to this day he is very well regarded as one of the most knowledgeable people in the country in regards to black American literature and history along with the history of Africa and the African diaspora. He had a program produced this past year that deals with most of the myths that you typed above and he discredits them.

Again, we are all the same people. We all come from Africa. So it is very odd to me that you would think that Africans never did the things above when we all come from that continent and Africa has had all those things you mentioned over the past thousands of years.

Africa's Great Civilizations PBS - Henry Louis Gates
Please show proof that Africans invented the wheel, had written language or built two story structures.

As to the "all African" quib, whats your point?

Again, like all leftists in this thread you argued emotion, nothing more.
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Old 09-27-2017, 11:35 AM
 
Location: New York
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Please show proof that Africans invented the wheel, had written language or built two story structures.

As to the "all African" quib, whats your point?

Again, like all leftists in this thread you argued emotion, nothing more.
https://www2.psych.ubc.ca/~henrich/p...ecognition.pdf
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Old 09-27-2017, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Nope. This is a spinoff of the thread about conservatives not thinking racism exists......which I did not start.
Still waiting for you to show proof conservatives think racism doesn't exist.
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Old 09-27-2017, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Texas
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OK. Let's presume that's correct. Explain this:

Percent of 12th grade students of each race/ethnicity who are proficient or above:

Mathematics:

Overall: 26%

Asian/Pacific Islander: 47%
White: 33%
American Indian/Alaska Native: 12%
Hispanic: 12%
Black: 7%

Reading:

Overall: 38%


Asian/Pacific Islander: 47%
White: 47%
American Indian/Alaska Native: 26%
Hispanic: 23%
Black: 16%

National Assessment of Educational Progress - NAEP - 12th Grade Mathematics and Reading
That's an indictment on our education system and single parenthood. Not race
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Old 09-27-2017, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I'll say once again - if you're going to remain silent and take advantage of:
  • liberals in Academia claiming high school admission tests are racist because minorities cannot pass them
  • the DOJ pressuring cities to lower their testing standards for civil service jobs to accommodate minorities
  • the lower requirements universities have for URM's

then you shouldn't be upset if the masses think you're struggling in the smarts department.

Now, I happen to think black people are as smart as white people and don't need those things, but if you don't think there's a correlation between the narrative of 'a need for lower standards' and people's perceptions, you're wrong.
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