Denver Nurses Open Body Bag to see Deceased Man's Genitals (women, benefits)
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What they did was unprofessional. Tacky to be sure. Did it compromise treatment? NO The patient was already dead. They deserve a rip. If one was a supervisor they should be pulled from the position. Bosses need to be the role model. They don't deserve to be fired. If the day I die this happened to me, I wouldn't care. I'll be dead.
It is not always about *you*.
Ever since the days of Florence Nightingale professional nurses have tried to fight off the reputation that they were loose tarts and not much better than prostitutes. As such moral character has been a part of the job and or even licensing requirements. While not universal nearly all US state boards of nursing do indeed have "moral fitness" clauses as to who can become and remain a nurse.
Because nurses perform often intimate care of their patients, and this includes when they are ill and or incapacitated, gossiping about what they see during said care has *always* been discouraged. Hearing is the last sense to go when being put under anesthesia/given narcotics or other medicine to induce sleep, and is one if not the first to return. Thus nurses even as students are cautioned about what they say around patients.
To any respectable and decent nurse the idea that others from that profession would not only gossip about a male patient's body parts while he still lived, but then went back to open a body bag and examine the contents further still, yes would seem as very *inappropriate* behavior for a professional licensed nurse.
Some here are basically saying it's not a big deal for nurses (or other medical staff) to lift the covers to view patient genitals for non-medical reasons. They go further to say that the practice itself and the accompanying discussions should be kept amongst themselves and that it is wrong for any within their ranks to report them. They find more offense in reporting the medical world's dirty secrets than in allowing it to go on.
What occurs to me is that similar to how pedophiles for many many years found safe harbor in the priesthood to pursue their perversions, voyeurs have found safe harbor in nursing and other medical roles. Certainly the voyeurs are the minority, hopefully a small minority. Why then does the majority allow them to keep doing what they do? Or is the issue instead that the voyeurs are the majority in certain subsets of the medical system (the OR and Urology for example) because those are the areas that give them the greatest access to patient genitalia?
Dead guy probably would have been thrilled to know his endowment was to be acknowledged, posthumous.
What a tacky comment.
Pssst: "Dead guy" was somebody's father, son, or brother...a human being. Nobody should be disrespected in such a manner, and certainly not by a bunch of unprofessional nurses who viewed him as fodder for "The Three Ts"--talk, titillation, and tee-hee.
To all of the uninformed posters who called the OP sexist for pointing out the double standard, all five nurses, four of whom are back at work, are FEMALE. This happened months ago, and plenty of articles other than the cited one have since recounted that fact.
And BTW, the nurse who promptly reported them all was also female--at least she acknowledged the impropriety.
Sadly this is the world we live in today, people are SOOO ready to report someone else, call police on someone else, report just about anything! In the past this was highly frowned upon and usually the ones who reported suffered the most. People are not loyal to their fellow citizens anymore, many people will side with authority if given the chance. I do not think its coincidence that it got like this either.
Female privilege, Would bet dollars to donuts had these been men checking out dead women's boobs and vaginas they'd not only be instantly fired but seeing legal action.
Both males and females are/were called nurses, and I'm sure both can waste just a little more time being visually concerned with certain physical areas of the patient's body that are not quite related to actually helping cure the patient, nor assisting with the deceased patient's final destination.
Perhaps we should now label that fetish 'Nurselloglia' (Nurse will ogle ya') and Nursellogliacs!
Geez…and here I thought my biggest fear, stemming from that childhood lecture, was that I might get into an accident someday that requires emergency surgery, so I better be wearing clean socks and underwear everyday single day, just in case…that one may have just moved down to second place!
Last edited by noregon98; 09-13-2017 at 12:17 AM..
That's just weird and macabre to me for the nurses to open a body bag to see a man's genitalia...as someone mentioned, if a man did that he would be immediately fired and justifiably so.
Not necessarily. It's terribly disrespectful though. Whether the deceased is male or female. Unfortunately, gallows sense of humor and a certain callousness towards death often comes with the job for many medical folks.
Not necessarily. It's terribly disrespectful though. Whether the deceased is male or female. Unfortunately, gallows sense of humor and a certain callousness towards death often comes with the job for many medical folks.
Quite frankly it's not only gallows humor caused by death. Nursing is a highly stressful job. Putting up with demanding patients and doctors. Throw in all the multi tasking you have to do it can make you kind of crazy. Crazy enough to do something like these nurses did.
This article really is just emblematic of a larger societal trend that allows women to enjoy and ogle attractive men, whereas men are crucified as "predators" and "creeps" for doing the same to women...you will see this on news broadcasts, and especially on entertainment/celebrity news shows whereby every couple of months theyll run a story about a beauty queen or a Miss America contestant, or a beauty model or a celebrity in a bikini, and youll notice that the male anchorman has been trained to sit there like a statue with this dumb, indifferent gee whiz look on his face knowing that he had better NOT comment on a womans appearance...even positively. And then you see those same newscasters run a story about the local firefighters calendar or a male beauty model, and you can hear not only the female news anchor ogling those attractive men, but you can clearly hear the weather girl and the traffic girl and all of the female news staff behind the cameras howling, and oohing and aahhing and commenting like a bunch of highschool horndogs.
But you better believe that male anchorman has been trained to KNOW that when it comes his time to see a half naked female's photo or anything related to the female body, he'd better find something else to avert his gaze to and he dare not make a peep, and certainly not in a professional environment, as his female coworkers are allowed to do, lest he be classified as a "creep" and a "perv" or "predator" and so forth.
Last edited by soletaire; 09-13-2017 at 06:41 AM..
One the one hand, we all pretty much make comments about other people. People we know, people we don't know, mostly in private conversation or with friends. We comment on clothing, hair, body, attitudes, whatever. In a hospital, in a morgue, with a dead person .... that is usually pretty private and though perhaps creepy and crude, its not harmful unless made public.
On the other hand, there are generally boundaries. Lines you don't typically cross due to social politeness or perhaps, job requirements. Though most modesty is at minimum in a medical environment, it is maintained as much as possible. Patient privacy and confidentiality is normally maintained on a need to know basis. Unless you are directly responsible for care or in a learning/teaching environment, poking into a patients medical record or 'private parts', alive or dead, is frowned on. Obviously photos and videos etc. without permission is over the line.
These persons are probably good, well qualified medical personnel of which, there is a serious shortage of these days. A good reprimand and reminder of their professional and ethical standards are certainly in order. Destroying their career over a single incident of this nature is probably not appropriate.
Move on.
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was somebody's father, son, or brother...a human being. Nobody should be disrespected in such a manner, and certainly not by a bunch of unprofessional nurses who viewed him as fodder for "The Three Ts"--talk, titillation, and tee-hee.
Denver Nurses Ogle Deceased Man's Genitals (thread starter's similar thread's title)
