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Old 09-12-2017, 06:47 PM
 
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Sounds like a great marketing hoax
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:11 PM
 
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I think it's in our best interest to work towards cleaner energy, but it needs to be done properly.

First, let's not succumb to taxing scams meant to either enrich certain people or redistribute wealth.
If you note, I condemned the scam.part.
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Fake news from a trash rag...
Typical cult response....Don't like the news therefore it must be false....Do you people EVER think for yourselves?

https://www.c2es.org/publications/bu...repare-low-car
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:12 PM
 
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Not at the the expense of the working people.
There is no reason it has to.
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:13 PM
 
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Typical cult response....Don't like the news therefore it must be false....Do you people EVER think for yourselves?
I think more than you, I don't take an article and proclaim its gospel... that requires more thinking... especially an article full of rhetoric and didn't really say anything, but I bet you didn't really understand the article..$40 per metric ton? Where did the money go? Duh, I bet you didn't think enough about that.. did ya...
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I think more than you, I don't take an article and proclaim its gospel... that requires more thinking... especially an article full of rhetoric and didn't really say anything, but I bet you didn't really understand the article..$40 per metric ton? Where did the money go? Duh, I bet you didn't think enough about that.. did ya...
Damn, I sure get tired of arguing with the uninformed...We've had a carbon tax here since 2008...It's presently $30 per ton, and I know where that money goes...Every cent is returned to taxpayers.
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:23 PM
 
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Damn, I sure get tired of arguing with the uninformed...We've had a carbon tax here since 2008...It's presently $30 per ton, and I know where that money goes...Every cent is returned to taxpayers.
Taking it out of one pocket and putting it in the other doesn't accomplish anything.

Why can't a business just do the right thing on their own?
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:25 PM
 
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Damn, I sure get tired of arguing with the uninformed...We've had a carbon tax here since 2008...It's presently $30 per ton, and I know where that money goes...Every cent is returned to taxpayers.
You are the uninformed cause you are spouting complete idiocy... congrats...

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Others may use a “shadow price” – a hypothetical cost applied to CO2 within a company. Although this doesn’t involve handing over any real money, businesses can use it to inform their decision-making, such as when to invest in a low-carbon alternative.
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:28 PM
 
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Obviously there is some perceived benefit to business in going along with carbon schemes. Best case is they think taking this position will profit them. Worst case is they have figured out some way to game the plan.

In the case of oil companies, most likely the goal is to improve perception to reduce the likelihood of onerous regulation.
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Old 09-12-2017, 07:32 PM
 
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Obviously there is some perceived benefit to business in going along with carbon schemes. Best case is they think taking this position will profit them. Worst case is they have figured out some way to game the plan.

In the case of oil companies, most likely the goal is to improve perception to reduce the likelihood of onerous regulation.
When they aren't the ones actually paying the tax, what difference does it make to them?
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