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The bolded you have no right to say. You can speak for yourself but how in the heck do you think you can speak for hundreds of millions of women? That's nuts....and arrogant.
The italicized is often true. I have many female middle-aged peers and often wonder if they realize that it's the 21st century (but then living in the South will make you wonder that anyhow). They do not seem to realize that no one is really stopping them anymore from doing and getting what they want from life. Unless they are financially dependent on a hubby who is not willing to support their goals and interests. If what she wants to do is reasonable and he refuses to be on board, thereby in some way preventing her from pursuing it, that is a form of oppression.
Plenty of people on this thread who have limited vantage points but, somehow, think they've seen and experienced it all.
Life for me, has been extremely fulfilling as far as "having it all" and I feel so blessed in so many ways, that I was given the stamina and wanton to better myself...and I grew up back in the 60's.
Believe me, I have every right to speak my mind, I am a woman, and as long as I live, be it you agree or not, last time I looked, we are still free to speak our thoughts and feelings on issues...adding, one is only as oppressed as they believe themselves to be.....here in America....woman have more rights and opportunities now, than ever before...and they head out leadership in most American corporate companies.
How can I speak for hundreds of millions of women? Because I have worked with the and for them for over 20 years now in the Corporate field and many of them are awesome....and they do it all....Travel, leadership careers, husband, children and family, so....
and yes, I've done more in my lifetime than most have even considered doing....but, as said before, you are who you believe you are....nothing more nothing less, but it is out there for you to reach for....and accomplish.
My wife cant stand these women that complain about this. She has always worked in a male dominated career field (engineering) and has never been treated any differently than any of her male counterparts, her pay is no different than any other co worker and she has always had the same opportunities. I am sure there are women out there not treated fairly but its not all women. WHat frustrates me, are the women the equate a few women to all women and make a huge deal about it when it really isn't such a widespread problem to begin with.
My wife cant stand these women that complain about this. She has always worked in a male dominated career field (engineering) and has never been treated any differently than any of her male counterparts, her pay is no different than any other co worker and she has always had the same opportunities. I am sure there are women out there not treated fairly but its not all women. WHat frustrates me, are the women the equate a few women to all women and make a huge deal about it when it really isn't such a widespread problem to begin with.
I suppose it's so easy to complain, when you don't remember how it used to be, from stories of our grand-mothers and great grandmothers, but, as your wife, I come from a long line of very strong women influences....my aunt flew a plane, met her husband on her first maiden flight, sky dove for her 80th birthday. We gardened our own veggies, spent hours canning them, cleaned the house, took care of the car, wrote, raised kids, worked full time jobs, and worked jobs which were male dominated. Actually enjoyed working construction and made a lot of lifetime friends with them and they're wives....doing so...made the same amount of money they did....
It's all out there, all you have to do is find it....where there is will, there is a way.
I want people to treat young children the same way not differently depending on what's between their legs so they can grow up with the same opportunities and chances for success (because the way they are treated does impact their chances and opportunities in life, it changes them immensely) - nothing outrageous about wanting that.
And the rest of your post is nonsense, you have no idea what you are talking about.
They can have the same opportunities and chances without being treated as genderless eunuchs. As for the rest, Swedish men do sit down to pee, and Swedish women are inviting hundreds of thousands of fighting/breeding age, mostly male muslim refugees in to the country. Maybe Finnish men stand proud while doing their business, I don't know, but if they are being raised genderless they likely won't be for long.
This is bizarre.
Feel free to hold yourself up as an expert on the urinary habits of Nordic men, but having lived in Sweden for multiple years I can assure you that standing urinals exist, and are used in Sweden.
Now, not being a lunatic, i didn't check anyone's citizenship so I'm only assuming that some of the men that I noticed using standing urinals were, in fact, Swedes.
They can have the same opportunities and chances without being treated as genderless eunuchs. As for the rest, Swedish men do sit down to pee, and Swedish women are inviting hundreds of thousands of fighting/breeding age, mostly male muslim refugees in to the country. Maybe Finnish men stand proud while doing their business, I don't know, but if they are being raised genderless they likely won't be for long.
Again, you really don't know what you are talking about.
I highly recommend watching the documentary if you actually want to learn something. The one term experiment of treating the boys and girls the same resulted in some really great changes in the children, the girls self-esteem grew and their confidence in their own abilities particularly in things like maths (traditionally male-dominated), the boys ability to talk about their emotions grew and their bad behaviour plummeted. All this just from treating them equally - the potential this holds for the next generation of children and how they might grow up (truly having equality of opportunity rather than a gendered split in opportunities) is wonderful.
It may surprise you to realise that boys and girls, prior to puberty, are the same - the only biological difference is their genitals, everything else is socialised into them.
Again, you really don't know what you are talking about.
I highly recommend watching the documentary if you actually want to learn something. The one term experiment of treating the boys and girls the same resulted in some really great changes in the children, the girls self-esteem grew and their confidence in their own abilities particularly in things like maths (traditionally male-dominated), the boys ability to talk about their emotions grew and their bad behaviour plummeted. All this just from treating them equally - the potential this holds for the next generation of children and how they might grow up (truly having equality of opportunity rather than a gendered split in opportunities) is wonderful.
It may surprise you to realise that boys and girls, prior to puberty, are the same - the only biological difference is their genitals, everything else is socialised into them.
I'm sure those boys grew up to be wonderful men that their own women were not attracted to, and were all very tolerant in their acceptance of the muslim men who were sent to replace them in the bedroom.
You have a good point. In the example, if she wanted it badly enough, it was a reasonable thing to to pursue and her hubby was insisting on being a jerk about it -- then, indeed, she could try to do it without his support or also bale on the marriage. Those are not optimal, however.
For whatever it's worth, I realized as a young adult, that whomever brings home all the bacon, or the larger portion of it, in marriage tends to have an outsize degree of control. A couple decades and many conversations with friends later, my early observation has proven accurate. It's not right, of course, but it's real. So, there can be some financial oppression exerted in relationships and within companies on employees, etc. Not always from men, it can be women attempting to oppress other women as well.
I still do not see that as oppression. Compromise, choices, reality.
I would like a big fat raise but my boss refusing is not oppression. I am free to seek employment elsewhere or do what is necessary to get the pay I want. I am always free to get my own job and earn whatever it is I wish to acquire within a marriage. And sometime we just cant get what we want because it just is not obtainable or we choose to make sacrifices. That is not oppression.
Oppression is being denied the ability to use available resources to obtain your goals or make your own choices.
I agree and I think this was the point of crembrulee if I am not mistaken.
yes, thank you, it was....we humans become all to comfortable in positions we shouldn't be in, and if the position isn't meeting our expectations, then it's time to leave, to look for something else.
Don't ever allow others to dictate how you (meaning you in general, not you redwood) feel about yourself.
a close corporate female friend and I were just discussing this the other day. If your unhappy, leave, even if it even if means taking night courses.
this friend of mine, worked full time, and put herself thru night school, earned her degree. Busy wife, mother and grand mother....so, after watching her finish with 4.0 average, no one can tell me, women are oppressed. She was also a lead within another corporation at one time.
If your stuck in a position you'd better get out of it, b/c the only person who limits you is yourself, even if you have to change careers, 20 times, you learn from each one and take it with you, nothing is ever lost.
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