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Old 09-15-2017, 10:46 AM
 
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UC-Berkeley braces for riots over conservative Ben Shapiro's speech on campus | Fox News

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Old 09-15-2017, 10:47 AM
 
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mmm, no. that ended last night.

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Old 09-15-2017, 10:50 AM
 
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mmm, no. that ended last night.

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Thanks my computer is acting wonky.
 
Old 09-15-2017, 12:27 PM
 
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Will the Far Left be wrong to riot or commit any violence, You Betcha. Is the Far Right wrong to intentionally try to trigger the Far Left act out, You Betcha. This is all being done on Purpose, anyone that tries to say otherwise is either part of the problem or an idiot, simple as that.
Bull! They are right to do this at Berkeley exactly because this is where it needs to be heard. By your standards, lunch counter sit-ins and sitting in the front of busses should have never been done during the Civil Rights era, and any violence committed by the people against them was entirely their own fault. That's just not right. You can't have one standard for one protest and another for people you don't agree with.
 
Old 09-15-2017, 12:31 PM
 
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Will the Far Left be wrong to riot or commit any violence, You Betcha. Is the Far Right wrong to intentionally try to trigger the Far Left act out, You Betcha. This is all being done on Purpose, anyone that tries to say otherwise is either part of the problem or an idiot, simple as that.
Hey Slick, the conservatives are simply just holding a rally.
 
Old 09-15-2017, 12:36 PM
 
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Brilliant post. This is exactly what would give me hope if it occurred today.
It would on a conservative campus, and did just last year at Liberty University when the students politely listened to Bernie Sanders give a speech.
 
Old 09-15-2017, 12:52 PM
 
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Is the Far Right wrong to intentionally try to trigger the Far Left act out, You Betcha.
(sigh)

And another blame-the-speaker-for-the-protesters'-violence dupe speaks out.

Giving a speech favoring slavery to a groups of people who were recently freed from slavery, is "triggering" them.

Giving a speech smearing and castigating Jews to a group of Jews that recently escaped the Holocaust and who lost relatives in it, is "triggering" them.

Giving a speech describing conservative viewpoints, before a group of people who have actually benefitted from conservatism (where did their tuition money come from? Their rent? Their computers?) is NOT "triggering" them.

If anything, the latter group has been "triggered" by lies from other leftists imagining the "eeeevilness" of conservatism when none exists.

Is it wrong for any of those groups to commit violence in response to the speaker they heard? Yes, completely wrong.

Can the speakers be held at least partly at fault for the wrong reactions of the audience?

In the first two cases (slavery, massacring Jews), yes, they can be held partly responsible. Because they are advocating things that are bad and horribly wrong. Even if it's only people in the audience that actually broke things and assaulted people. In the third case (describing benefits of conservatism), no, the speaker absolutely cannot.

The fact is, there is nothing wrong, or bad, or offensive about the things Ben Shapiro talked about. People who think there are, are simply wrong, and appallingly ignorant to boot. And Shapiro isn't the least bit responsible for their stupidity, or the violence they cause as a result of their own stupidity

But you'd never know that from the coverage in most media. Most of them are announcing possible riots due to the conservative speaker showing up, or tallying the cost of security necessitated by the conservative speaker's visit.

Those riots are due EXCLUSIVELY to the empty-headed, mindless violence of the audience, which Shapiro had nothing to do with. And the university and the city are expending all that money, not to protect people from Shapiro, but to protect people from the mindless leftist crybabies throwing temper tantrums.

If not for the deluded rage and destruction by the nutcases burning and breaking things, Shapiro's speech would cause no more trouble than someone pointing out that the sky is blue.
 
Old 09-15-2017, 01:25 PM
 
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for the dozens of leftists howling about the choice of venue-

this is in UTAH:

University trying to ‘prevent violence’ as students plan protests of conservative writer Ben Shapiro
 
Old 09-15-2017, 06:31 PM
 
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No one condones Antifa's actions but they are holding this at Berkley because of prior incidents that disrupted free speech. Hopefully they will say their peace and we can move on without any violence. Anyone attempting to violently disrupt this or drown them out should be arrested and removed.
I agree. Too bad the city officials in Berkeley don't. They'd rather cancel the conservative's speech, than arrest the lawbreakers and rioters.

The only odd thing (aside from their not doing their job) is where they then claim they are keeping the peace and preserving the right to free speech.
 
Old 09-15-2017, 06:53 PM
 
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Who on the right, disrupted the lefts free speech at Berkley?











Free speech....nobody should be done harm because of their speech...yet, that is exactly what is being said by the left in this very thread....
Antifa is not "the left". This ended peacefully and the speakers made their point. Berkeley survived.
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