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Old 09-18-2017, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Florida
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We are truly living in very sad times.
It is not the times we live in. Mental illness has always been a sad thing.
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:26 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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It is not the times we live in. Mental illness has always been a sad thing.
We used to provide better support to the severally mentally disturbed rather than allowing them to roam the street and kill and maim people.

Europe is at least better than the US where the ready availability of guns is also an issue, and where there is a distinct lack of mental health services in many states.
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:28 AM
 
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We used to provide better support to the severally mentally disturbed rather than allowing them to roam the street and kill and maim people.

Europe is at least better than the US where the ready availability of guns is also an issue, and where there is a distinct lack of mental health services in many states.
Who is "we"? Can you please describe this "better support"?
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:30 AM
 
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Honestly, the "times we live in" are pretty freaking good. Global communications + everyone having video cameras in their pockets + 24 hour continuous news cycle just makes it look worse than it is. You think people weren't being murdered and attacked all over the world in gruesome ways a few decades ago?

The idea that the past is a fantasy land where we did everything right and the world was a much better place is a myth.

Name the time period you think was much better, and a quick search of history will turn up all sorts of grotesqueries associated with it.
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:32 AM
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Who is "we"? Can you please describe this "better support"?
'We' is western socities is general and better support included more crisis beds which have been cut in many countries, more mental health doctors and nurses, and more mental health community outreach teams to monitor individuals.

It seems in many countries mental health services have been neglected and as a result more severally mentally disturbed people are now roaming the streets and are often homeless in many countries.

Serious Mental Illness and Homicide - Treatment Advocacy Center

Serious Mental Illness and Mass Homicide - Treatment Advocacy Center
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:32 AM
 
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Honestly, the "times we live in" are pretty freaking good. Global communications + everyone having video cameras in their pockets + 24 hour continuous news cycle just makes it look worse than it is. You think people weren't being murdered and attacked all over the world in gruesome ways a few decades ago?
In fact, crime was far worse in the good ol days before street lighting came along.
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:34 AM
 
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Do some research on mental health treatments of the past and then get back to me about how much better they were.
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Does anyone find it odd that they are not telling us the name of the mentally ill woman who threw the acid but they are very quick to tell us that it is not terrorism?

It is sad but in this day and age whose mind does not automatically jump to the collusion that it was a purposeful attack on Americans by a muslim person?


What is really amazing is that the young women who were the victims have already come out to blame the illness not their attacker. I think that says a lot.
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:37 AM
 
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It seems in many countries mental health services have been neglected and as a result more severally mentally disturbed people are now roaming the streets in many countries.
You don't have to go back very far at all to run into the days of sanitariums and lobotomies, so it must be a very narrow time frame you are idolizing.
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:38 AM
 
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mental illness? pushing someone into traffic is mental illness, randomly attacking someone with a knife may be mental illness.

putting acid in a bottle to deliberately pour it on someone? That's not mental illness, that's just evil.
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