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Old 09-19-2017, 09:47 AM
 
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Once the super delegates committed for Hillary he had no chance. If he had won enough primaries he could have peeled off a few but probably not enough. Also, there is perception. If one, as a voter, feel that your candidate has no chance because the deck is stacked against him/her, you don't bother to vote.

But then he should have know the rules of the primaries before he entered the race and not complain about and against it. Just like Hillary should have known the difference between EC votes and popular votes.
How once uses them makes them a skilled candidate. Obama know this in 2008 when he used the Caucus states to win delegates even though he knew he will lose in non causes states to Hillary, especially those with higher percentage of white, red neck population. And Trump also did that focusing on EC votes in the swing rust belt states and not bothering with NY and California where he knew he would lose by huge margins.
That is certainly a key, and all part of the medias effort to skew the polls to make people think Trump had no chance.
But lets not forget the media did the same thing for Hillary against Bernie. The video clip below shows a legitimate argument from a Bernie supporter against how the media was creating this air of inevitability that Hillary would win because of the super delegates. Those votes cannot be counted prior to the convention, so they should not be included in every news report making it seem as if Hillary's lead was insurmountable.
Heck if anyone knows about how super delegates can change their minds, it is Hillary from back in 2008. She thought she had them wrapped up, until Obama caught steam and eventually beat her.

The so called journalist Brian Stelter for CNN was trying to carry Hillary's water for her, but then let down his veil of neutrality toward the end, scolding and trying to admonish the Bernie supporter for risking the historical nature of the first woman nominee. You can see him get passionate about her and get flustered with the guest.
Classic example of a biased press and lack of professionalism from a so called journalist;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07XpqAPj7lM


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Old 09-19-2017, 09:49 AM
 
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Primary voters are not the same as party voters, there are many people like myself who vote in the other parties' primaries because our side either isnt competitive or the candidate has already been decided. ....
That is highly dependent upon the state. If the state has a closed or semi-closed primary, most do, then you can't voted as a registered Democrat in the GOP primary and vice versa.
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Old 09-19-2017, 09:51 AM
 
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It had everything to do with Bernie. He couldn't win a primary -.....
Incorrect.

He won as many state primaries as Hillary. IMO, he also won a few caucuses where DNC rules instead gave the win to Hillary.

In the end it didn't matter. Neither candidate had enough pledged votes from the primaries to win the nomination.

The Super Delegates decided it and it's clear they would never vote for Bernie.
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