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Hopefully you did some research about countries who have implemented single payer. Look beyond the 'health care for all', but check the quality and availability of care. Not sure how anyone is looking forward to this.
I don't know what research you are referring to. I have family in Canada and they absolutely love their healthcare. The rumors about long waits for treatment have not been their experience. Until the profits are neutralized private insurers will continue to provide less coverage and prices of healthcare will continue to sky rocket. The U.S. is behind the times, willingly so.
Cassidy-Graham stinks of Big Insurance $$$; but Trump says pre-existing conditions are covered?
We've learned one thing for certain; when Trump is strongly advocating for something, we the people out here in the heartland, are the ones that are going to get screwed the hardest by it. And so it is with the latest Trumpcare monstrosity; the Cassidy-Graham bill. This bill stinks to high heaven, because it has one primary purpose; to find a way to get insurance companies off the hook for being forced to cover people with pre-existing conditions.
Of course if you only listen to Donald Trump, you might be led to believe that it does nothing of the sort. Of COURSE pre-existing conditions will be covered, right? After all that's what he told us, and surely, surely, our President wouldn't LIE to our faces, would he?
As usual, the joke is on us. Here's the truth about this bill.
The bill maintains the Obamacare ban on insurers denying someone a plan because of a pre-existing condition. So on the surface, the protection for thiose with pre-existing conditions seems to be intact.
But here's what it actually does: Individual states may now obtain waivers to drop the mandate for price protections. Believe it or not, it actually REWARDS the states for doing this. All each state has to do is play the game of showing that it can offer "adequate and affordable" coverage to anyone with pre-existing conditions.
Like any good weasel-worded legislation written by insurance company executives, the terms "adequate and affordable" aren't defined. There is no doubt whatsoever that this is the golden ticket that the insurance companies have been lobbying for since the ACA was instituted.
Here's what it comes down to - the Graham-Cassidy bill effectively destroys the guarantee that those with pre-existing conditions won't face price increases because of their health problems. In other words, this bill address the letter of original law, but crushes the spirit of the original intent into the dirt.
The one feature in the ACA that almost everyone could agree was a good thing, the protection for affordable insurance coverage for those with pre-existing conditions - is being grossly undermined, until it essentially no longer exists. And still, Trump happily gets in front of the American people and lies to them with a straight face; "I would not sign Graham-Cassidy if it did not include coverage of pre-existing conditions. It does! A great bill."
The stench from this thing is reeking to high heaven, and I have a feeling that any Senators that vote for Cassidy-Graham are going to be in a world of hurt.
Your (taken from WT) analysis conveniently leaves out Medicare and the high level of satisfaction with it among US seniors. The wait times have little to do with who pays and everything to do with how much is paid. You hold down costs by rationing services in a health care system. We pay dearly for prompt referrals in our US system. We have an excess of facilities and redundant services and that costs. If we continue that, it would not matter whether the bill gets paid by an insurer, a non-profit or even the government.
you do not need to ration services to hold down costs, you merely need to fight waste and stupidity.
"rationing" is the scare tactic of the right.
furthermore in a universal system those who have fancy plans can have new fancy plans, it is not rocket science i used to have one in the EU and my company paid for it.
to find a way to get insurance companoes off the hook for being forced to cover people with pre-existing conditions.
If you wish to keep the pre-existing condition provision the mandate needs to remain and given teeth. What that means is seizing assets, garnishing wages and jailing people who do not have a pot to **** in if they fail to buy insurance.
It was a relatively small # of people who had problems with the individual market
Yes. Those who were seriously ill, to be precise.
Newsflash: It is not hard to provide affordable health services for healthy people. It is, in fact, what a market-driven solution will trend towards.
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which could have been fixed with more market base solutions opening up laws to allow people to bargain in large groups/allowing insurers to sell across state lines.
It is not very attractive to insure large groups whose health problems kept them from getting coverage elsewhere. In fact, it is a market that insurers will do everything in their power to avoid. And he "across state lines" is a canard. That's how you get a race to the bottom - every insurer will race to put its headquarter in whichever state will adjust its laws to be pro-insurer and anti-patient.
There is no money in insuring sick people. This is the fundamental flaw in a market-driven model. And there is no amount of deregulation that will change this fact.
So much better to just do without health care entirely. Right now, 65+ can spend without limit (paid by those younger) and those younger can either pay more than their mortgage or do without. Great solution.
You do realize those that you are complaining about have paid into the system, most for their WHOLE working lives and CONTINUE to pay for their insurance. Every month there is a withdrawal from their SS for Medicare and then it does not pay at 100% so there's copays for visits and procedures as well as hospital stays unless the senior citizen is on Medicaid or has Medicare help that reduces the costs.
Now you "could" have a Medigap policy (expensive) OR Medicare Advantage but you pay for those above and beyond what is taken out of your Medicare with a couple of exceptions for some Medicare Advantage polices. Once you've paid for all of those two choices you STILL have copays and procedures/drugs that are at full or damn close to full price.
So, tell me again how Seniors get some kind of a free ride?
While I'm not in this group (yet) I know Seniors that have to make a decision whether to buy food or all of their meds, usually they go without meds. Damn, how easy they have it.
If you wish to keep the pre-existing condition provision the mandate needs to remain and given teeth. What that means is seizing assets, garnishing wages and jailing people who do not have a pot to **** in if they fail to buy insurance.
Wrong. The solution is to keep the ACA, Medicare and Medicaid missions as they are, and FIX the bloated federal systems that support them.
Donald Trump LOVES to blather on about what a great businessman he is all the time, doesn't he? But instead of actually doing something useful and lessen the bureaucracy that is half the cost of these programs, he would much prefer to throw a bone to Big Insurance. He will give them the pass they want on pre-existing conditions - while at the same time throw us under the bus. We KNOW the way this guy works now.
I don't know what research you are referring to. I have family in Canada and they absolutely love their healthcare. The rumors about long waits for treatment have not been their experience. Until the profits are neutralized private insurers will continue to provide less coverage and prices of healthcare will continue to sky rocket. The U.S. is behind the times, willingly so.
it is the endless scare stories promoted by vested interests and fool that keeps us in this costly and low value system.
my mom takes a drug that costs about 47 euros a month, but cost almost 400 a month in the USA. Her EU doc is highly skilled and the hospital is state of the art. the pharmas and their middle men are just ripping us off.
it is no wonder they fight so hard. they can charge 2x 4x 10x what they charge in the EU....
those republicans who resist universal care are simply protecting big pharma, large insurance corps and corporate hospital chains...
the Trumpers and republicans are helping global corps stick it to working americans. It is hard to figure out Trumpers, they are actively supporting big wall street healthcare corps at the expense of their own neighbors and children...
I wonder how much you'd scream when you are told you have to wait months or a year for a hip replacement OR are told you're just to damned old to fix anymore, here's some pills. THAT is what happens in those countries you keep pointing to as better than us...
Your 65-70 year old mother has cancer? Oh well, here's some morphine to make you comfortable as we cannot "waste" any resources that can be used on younger people who have lots of (taxable) years ahead of them.
Yeah, deny it or laugh all you want.... It happens.
It's just fine when it's "old" people except EVERYONE will be an old person (whatever that age will be at the time).
YEAH,YEAH,YEAH, REPEAT THE BS from the AMA! Do you actually know anyone overseas who has National Health Care? My dad was career AF and was stationed in England for a time and my mom always said England had the best healthcare system, and that most amazing medical cures/treatments came from England. Their salaried DR.S are not the DRUG-PUSHING money-lusting crap assembly line Dr.s of the US,WHO CARE ONLY ABOUT FEEDING THEIR GREED!
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Cassidy-Graham stinks of Big Insurance $$$; but Trump says pre-existing conditions are covered?
