Trump Cutting Back on National Monuments (leader, elect, government, states)

[Dbones]

Originally Posted by uggabugga

that doesn't sound accurate. cite the law for us.

It's not accurate. It's a lie. The government can undo anything that it does. It's preposterous to think they can't.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by kevinm

There should be no "Federal lands" except what is needed for military bases. The rest should belong to the States.

WHY? Based on what? Why should the military have a privilege accorded to no one else?

[phma]

Originally Posted by ditchoc

The ONLY reason Trump wants to destroy this heritage of the American people is because Obama and/or Democrats established them.

Not the best possible reason but acceptable.

Obama and his postage stamp legacy. I like it !!!!!!!! Can I get a "Promote that Guy" ?

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by berdee

Were you mad when other presidents did the same? Like when Obama shrank Bears Ears for the uranium mines?

Originally Posted by Mason3000

So what? Bears Ears was just named a National Monument, against the will of the people of Utah by an executive order by Obama on his way out the door. Better to let the people of Utah decide these things.

Do you two need a minute to compare notes?

[Dbones]

Originally Posted by burdell

WHY? Based on what? Why should the military have a privilege accorded to no one else?

lmao..Aren't you arguing FOR the Feds to keep land in this thread? Make up your mind already. Do the Feds get to take land away from people or not?

[evilcart]

Originally Posted by phma

What difference does it make ?

The left has destroyed statues illegally. One is legal and the other not. The Lincoln and Washing monuments have been targeted also.

The "Statue of Liberty" is a national monument. It is listed among the other 128 monuments, some of which include buildings and statues.

Headline by the NYT says they are monuments. Not national monuments.

Confederate Monuments Are Coming Down
Across the United States.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...s-removed.html

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in short your whataboutism is just noise, intended to obscure signal and nothing more.

[Toyman at Jewel Lake]

You mean the Trump administration is actually listening to the people that live near and are impacted by the monument designation? Oh, the horror!

[burdell]

Originally Posted by Dbones

lmao..Aren't you arguing FOR the Feds to keep land in this thread? Make up your mind already. Do the Feds get to take land away from people or not?

I asked WHY should ONLY the military have the right to Federal lands? Sorry if you're incapable of understanding the simple concept of more than one agency also controlling Federal lands.

And just so you understand, designating lands that are already Federal lands as National Monuments IS NOT taking land away from people no matter what your imagination may tell you.

[Eeyore1954]

Originally Posted by Enigma777

Which people of Utah? The ones who were originally there, or the ones who took it from them? Or the ones who now want to turn it into oil fields?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-interior-monument-tribes/navajo-tribe-says-ready-to-sue-trump-over-changes-to-utah-monument-idUSKCN1BW2W0

Just wondering if you live in the United States do you own a home or any land?

[Kracer]

The states must be po'ed that the feds are returning state land to their control.


Clinton created or expanded 19 NMs
Obama created or expanded 34 Nms


there are 129 established natl monuments


Trump is looking only those established in the last 21 years.... mid Clinton administration


Hey, libs, if you like your natl monuments you can keep your natl monuments!


No distinction can be made between excessive and intelligent decisions by the liberal mind. All or nothing at all, no compromise, no debate.


Wiki.....


"The Trump Administration today issued an Executive Order that commands the Department of Interior to examine the Antiquities Act and national monuments designated over the last 21 years. The stated goal of the Executive Order is to determine whether the national monuments comply with the intent of the Antiquities Act—the law that allows presidents to proclaim national monuments without the consent of Congress. "