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Old 09-18-2017, 03:41 AM
 
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It looks like Trump's Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke is proposing downsizing and reducing restrictions including allowing ranching and logging in:

Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante in Utah
Cascade-Siskiyou in Oregon
Gold Butte in Nevada
Katahdin in Maine
Organ Mountains-Desert Peaks and Rio Grande Del Norte in New Mexico

Allowing commercial fishing in:

Northeast Canyons and Seamount off the Massachusetts coast and
Rose Atoll and the Pacific Remote Islands

If these states don't care what Trump is doing to them, so be it but every day Trump continues to try to wreck this country. Will national parks be next? A government funded Trump hotel in Yellowstone?

10 national monuments could shrink or face cutbacks under Interior plan - cetusnews
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Old 09-18-2017, 04:17 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Were you mad when other presidents did the same? Like when Obama shrank Bears Ears for the uranium mines?
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Old 09-18-2017, 04:19 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Nothing is sacred to this idiot. If he had his way, there would be a Trump hotel in front of Old Faithful.
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Old 12-04-2017, 08:56 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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better get out your hankies again.

Trump will shrink Bears Ears during Utah visit Monday, when five tribes promise to sue him - The Salt Lake Tribune
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Old 12-04-2017, 09:29 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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So what? Bears Ears was just named a National Monument, against the will of the people of Utah by an executive order by Obama on his way out the door. Better to let the people of Utah decide these things.
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Old 12-04-2017, 09:31 AM
 
Location: NC
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so what? the libs are just going to call them all racist and tear them down in the future anyhow?
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Old 12-04-2017, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Florida
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So what? Bears Ears was just named a National Monument, against the will of the people of Utah by an executive order by Obama on his way out the door. Better to let the people of Utah decide these things.
Which people of Utah? The ones who were originally there, or the ones who took it from them? Or the ones who now want to turn it into oil fields?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-interior-monument-tribes/navajo-tribe-says-ready-to-sue-trump-over-changes-to-utah-monument-idUSKCN1BW2W0
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Old 12-04-2017, 09:38 AM
 
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Which people of Utah? The ones who were originally there, or the ones who took it from them? Or the ones who now want to turn it into oil fields?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-interior-monument-tribes/navajo-tribe-says-ready-to-sue-trump-over-changes-to-utah-monument-idUSKCN1BW2W0
How about the ones that live there NOW? Those people. No one alive took anything from anyone and those that did do some taking took LAND that belonged to no one.
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Old 12-04-2017, 09:40 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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Which people of Utah? The ones who were originally there, or the ones who took it from them? Or the ones who now want to turn it into oil fields?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-interior-monument-tribes/navajo-tribe-says-ready-to-sue-trump-over-changes-to-utah-monument-idUSKCN1BW2W0
Who cares which people? Natives don't have more rights than everyone else. Plus, you have no idea who was there originally. Everyone, including the so-called natives, came from somewhere else. In modern day Utah, a small group of natives wanted it done, so Obama bypassed the people of Utah & did it as a lame duck President.
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Old 12-04-2017, 09:45 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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So what? Bears Ears was just named a National Monument, against the will of the people of Utah by an executive order by Obama on his way out the door. Better to let the people of Utah decide these things.

Why should the people of Utah and not the people of America decide what should be done with Federal lands?
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