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Old 09-21-2017, 12:23 PM
exm
 
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The main problem I see with DACA is that it further encourages illegals to bring their children here. Why bother going the legal route when your child will be able to apply for DACA status after some time?
That's why:
  • A DACA bill should not include a pathway to citizenship
  • Strong border enforcement should also be part of this bill

 
Old 09-21-2017, 03:42 PM
 
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That's why:
  • A DACA bill should not include a pathway to citizenship
  • Strong border enforcement should also be part of this bill

A lack of a path to citizenship won't stop them. They'd still bring their kids here to get legal status and take American jobs.


Yeah, strong border enforcement. That's what we were promised back in 1986 and here we are today with at least quadruple the number of illegal aliens since then. Fool me once.....
 
Old 09-21-2017, 04:02 PM
 
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A lack of a path to citizenship won't stop them. They'd still bring their kids here to get legal status and take American jobs.


Yeah, strong border enforcement. That's what we were promised back in 1986 and here we are today with at least quadruple the number of illegal aliens since then. Fool me once.....
You've been fooled more than once. (Not meant to be an attack to you). They have all lied to you. Four of them even still got re-elected.
 
Old 09-21-2017, 04:53 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Good people do not need a ton of money to win. Many good people do not want to put their families through the attacks though.
Have you seen the absolutely obscene amount of money that is spent for even school board elections?
As for the family thing, ever since the "rule" that family, especially kids were to be left alone went out the window I don't know why anyone but single people would run. Even then, the depth of attacks has become insane. Add that to the cost and I fully believe it's driven off most of the good people you speak of...
 
Old 09-21-2017, 04:55 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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A lack of a path to citizenship won't stop them. They'd still bring their kids here to get legal status and take American jobs.


Yeah, strong border enforcement. That's what we were promised back in 1986 and here we are today with at least quadruple the number of illegal aliens since then. Fool me once.....
Not only in 1986 but EVERY election since. Hell, even Clinton (the sane one) ran on it twice.
 
Old 09-21-2017, 05:00 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Not really. Seems like someone has realized that they had a super majority in 2009 and 2010, and didn't bother passing amnesty. It was pretty stupid on their part because the Dems have lost so much power since then.
Exactly. Dems haven't come through for either Hispanics or Blacks. Hispanics and Blacks are finally beginning to figure that out.
 
Old 09-21-2017, 05:01 PM
 
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No path to citizenship hasn't stopped the 30+ million illegals that are here today.
They get jobs, their kids go to school and get 3 squares a day, many qualify for all our social welfare benefits.
They get paid cash, don't pay taxes and pretty much can live wherever they want.
 
Old 09-21-2017, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Canada
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The main problem I see with DACA is that it further encourages illegals to bring their children here. Why bother going the legal route when your child will be able to apply for DACA status after some time?
MAYBE??? But only If they can be vetted and have zero felony history and are either working or in school. This age group was not in of themselves infiltrating.. ( baby's thru to 30+ years old today) .. So, I wonder what's your BEEF with law abiding folks who pay taxes and haven't broken any laws and got educated??? Their very existence brings in multi-billion to the tax base/services and actually exhibit American values by contributing. Yet have ZERO repayment coming to them!! Why is you nose so out of joint?

Why the Heck are you blaming youngsters that threw NO Fault of their own are here/there), who have a clean slate and area contributing on many levels????

Remove them?? Economy will lose billions of Tax incomes and loss of people who know nothing but Americanism ( Patriots) in their life... Who's going to replace that economic input/including Military service members ?? Some sort of Corporate types??

Sometimes I wonder just where folks like yourself get their information and consequences of such an agenda??? You are painting that ONE in a thousand who breaks laws or commits crimes... I have to tell you.. IF the other side wanted to AINT such a profile like you are.. Means Those WHITE MASS killers mean ALL White males or females who commit such atrocities should be judged on the SAME scale and etc etc etc!!

I truly hate reading and hearing those that seems to PAINT ( broad brush) everyone/everything/every idea /ALL Liberals believing something.. THAT's NOT true and it's not so!! The criminals deserve punishment// and everything the law can throw at them.... However many kill with impunity and escape ( mainly LE that have killed with impunity) .. but innocent DACA young people are pre-judged as terrorists or subhuman people!!
 
Old 09-21-2017, 05:31 PM
 
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... take American jobs.

...
If you want to bus dishes, roof houses, pick produce, mow lawns, etc., go for it.

Plenty of opportunities.
 
Old 09-21-2017, 05:45 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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If you want to bus dishes, roof houses, pick produce, mow lawns, etc., go for it.

Plenty of opportunities.
Yeah, and all of the good construction trade jobs such as dry walling and painting and worse, skilled trades such as electricians and plumbers. Those aren't low wage jobs "that Americans won't do" These people get fake papers and bam, they can get in.

This influx of people undercutting the wage system has been in place for 30 plus years and it's only hurt the lower people on the strata.. but no problem, lets bring in more and more and more.
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