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I'm going to hurt someone for causing me discomfort.
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Originally Posted by Suburban_Guy
Safety as being an issue, is an understatement to say the least.
The next passenger that repeatedly kicks my back seat or grabs onto it and shoves my whole seat back when they get up to use the toilet, is going to get my size 9.5's up their rear end.
Makes no sense to make seats smaller when people keep getting fatter. Perhaps the airlines see an easy way to get extra money by charging for two seats.
People should lose weight. I fly often and the seating is cramped but not bad for a normal sized person. If our culture allowed airline employees to be honest with people it wouldn't be such a problem. Every time that I am at an airport, I see many people that are too fat to fly that should be asked to leave for the comfort and safety of others.
Flying coach is like wearing yoga pants, at some point you have to admit that you and your body are no longer good candidates for either. If you are fat, spend the extra money and fly first class. If you can't afford first class, lose weight or drive instead.
I couldn't find that anywhere. Would you post a link related to this please?
Lots of articles on this dated 2017. The FAA was ordered by a judge to review the seat issues and they declined saying seat issues are issues of comfort.
Just google/bing "FAA says seat issues are issues of comfort"
Lots of articles on this dated 2017. The FAA was ordered by a judge to review the seat issues and they declined saying seat issues are issues of comfort.
Just google/bing "FAA says seat issues are issues of comfort"
I did and I find no such statement from the FAA.
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The Federal Aviation Administration has not conducted tests to determine if passengers can safely evacuate from today’s increasingly cramped airplane cabins. Medical experts have also raised concerns regarding increased risk for blood clots and pulmonary embolisms due to lack of adequate leg room. There have been increased reports of passenger fights and disturbances triggered by such close quarters.
That's precisely why the rights group took them to court and that's why the judges told them to reconsider and come back with test data. The FAA cited 1998 data with bigger seats. Their current data they say is proprietary and they won't release it.
In 2016 Congress refused to amend the FAA regulations to regulate seat size.
There is no link to the original reply by the FAA to the rights group, just the judges reply to the FAA when the rights group took them to court.
The judges said the FAA has to come up with a better response than issue of comfort.
Here is an article that accurately explains the ergonomic problems with airline seats.
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The seats are apparently still 18 inches wide, but the armrests are much more narrow — so a 6’1″ male will almost have to hug himself not to spill into his neighbor’s space.
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Airbus is promoting three seat sizes, which break down as follows:
Premium Economy: 20-inch seat cushion
Comfort Economy: 18-inch seat cushion
Budget Economy: 16.7″ (!!!!) seat cushion
The average American with 20-inch hips simply is not going to fit into these planes.
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I’m about 6’1″, and my knees are about 27 inches from the back of my seat — if I pull my hips all the way back. If I relax at all, that moves my knees out a few more inches — which puts them right against the seat in front of me.
My shoulder width is about 18 inches, but if I drop my arms and tuck them against my sides, I am more like 22 – 24 inches wide. According to the USA Today article, most airline seats are only 17 – 18.5 inches wide.
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