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Old 09-21-2017, 03:42 PM
 
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But I do know. Ocean currents shape the climate zones on earth. Tides are created by the gravitation interaction of the earth moon and sun....Wind is created by uneven heating by the sun. It's not complicated, it's simple physics, so I'm surprised you don't know that.
Nobody but you know.

How is that Nobel Price coming?

 
Old 09-21-2017, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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"This is the inescapable conclusion of a landmark paper, published in Nature Geoscience, which finally admits that the computer models have overstated the impact of carbon dioxide on climate and that the planet is warming more slowly than predicted."

Article
Breitbart should change it's name to "BS".
 
Old 09-21-2017, 04:24 PM
 
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A link to the paper's abstract
http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v...tcallback=true


The Breitbart article, and the OP, shockingly, are quite misleading.
"Shockingly"...

One wonders how someone from Breitbart could read the Nature article and then come up with the nonsensical and misleading article/title linked in the OP.
 
Old 09-21-2017, 04:29 PM
 
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"Shockingly"...

One wonders how someone from Breitbart could read the Nature article and then come up with the nonsensical and misleading article/title linked in the OP.
Because it is all about ideology and not facts. In the right-wing universe, ideology trumps truth.
 
Old 09-21-2017, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Because it is all about ideology and not facts. In the right-wing universe, ideology trumps truth.
I think you have that reversed. The ideology, excuse me, the religion of Man Blame Global Warming is not fact but pure LEFT WING ideology. Communism didn't work, although it is making a chic come back. So, use this hoax for wealth transfer, right? Nice try. It failed, move on to the Alien Invasion Fund. It's more believable.
 
Old 09-21-2017, 04:35 PM
 
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I think you have that reversed. The ideology, excuse me, the religion of Man Blame Global Warming is not fact but pure LEFT WING ideology. Communism didn't work, although it is making a chic come back. So, use this hoax for wealth transfer, right? Nice try. It failed, move on to the Alien Invasion Fund. It's more believable.
Did you read the Nature article?

http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v...tcallback=true
Emission budgets and pathways consistent with limiting warming to 1.5 °C


Please show how anything written in this paper backs up anything that you're saying above?
 
Old 09-21-2017, 04:45 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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But I do know. Ocean currents shape the climate zones on earth. Tides are created by the gravitation interaction of the earth moon and sun....Wind is created by uneven heating by the sun. It's not complicated, it's simple physics, so I'm surprised you don't know that.
Let's also not forget solar flares which influence things, correct?
 
Old 09-21-2017, 04:47 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Sure that's why Chile can support 80% of their energy with wind and solar.
You're really going to point at a country like Chile and compare it to here?
 
Old 09-21-2017, 04:48 PM
 
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Let's also not forget solar flares which influence things, correct?
along with all kinds of cosmic radiation from a variety of sources.
 
Old 09-21-2017, 05:11 PM
 
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The question that I don't see being answered either here or in media discussions of this report is what is being done to FIX the problem that led to all of this bad data?
In most of the jobs I've had in my lifetime, there would be an internal review, people would likely be fired and most importantly, steps would be taken to assure this did not EVER happen again. We would learn from it.

Instead, I see the alarmists saying we still should take them seriously without telling us how they are addressing their errors or how they will prevent them in the future.

Both sides in this debate have legitimate points! There is corruption and distortion being paid for by oil interests and there is also alarmism fueled by the desire for continued funding and political power.

I'm not a science "denier" but I am also not naive enough to think that science can't be influenced by politics, ideology and hubris.
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