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Old 09-24-2017, 09:36 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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The rest of the nation subsidizes the Democrat inner cities significantly and other Democrat policies like mass transit which is NOT financially able to pay for itself. Even the NYC subway operates at a loss. Drivers in rural America subsidize subways, high speed rail, and commuter trains that the urban liberals are such a fan of with their gas taxes. I also don't think how its in anyone's best economic interest to pay for these transportation projects that don't break even and why mass transit shouldn't be expected to pay for itself.

There are no THIRD generation laid off coal miners. Coal mining was very healthy up until Obama's presidency and it was only after Obama's EPA's war on coal that things started getting significantly worse in Appalachia. The petrochemical industry here in Louisiana is humming along quite nicely and we want to KEEP it that way and building more pipelines will provide jobs and help the US economy overall. Southern states have attracted many new manufacturing plants including many automakers while Democrat states continues to lose jobs due to liberal policies, government overregulation, and overly powerful unions.

And as for coal country I guess the typical Democrat argument is that all these people should just leave the place their families have lived in for generations, because they're the losers that Obama and the Democrats have chosen and that entire states can just be written off and their economies allowed to crumble.
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Old 09-24-2017, 09:51 PM
 
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The rest of the nation subsidizes the Democrat inner cities significantly and other Democrat policies like mass transit which is NOT financially able to pay for itself. Even the NYC subway operates at a loss. Drivers in rural America subsidize subways, high speed rail, and commuter trains that the urban liberals are such a fan of with their gas taxes. I also don't think how its in anyone's best economic interest to pay for these transportation projects that don't break even and why mass transit shouldn't be expected to pay for itself.

There are no THIRD generation laid off coal miners. Coal mining was very healthy up until Obama's presidency and it was only after Obama's EPA's war on coal that things started getting significantly worse in Appalachia. The petrochemical industry here in Louisiana is humming along quite nicely and we want to KEEP it that way and building more pipelines will provide jobs and help the US economy overall. Southern states have attracted many new manufacturing plants including many automakers while Democrat states continues to lose jobs due to liberal policies, government overregulation, and overly powerful unions.

And as for coal country I guess the typical Democrat argument is that all these people should just leave the place their families have lived in for generations, because they're the losers that Obama and the Democrats have chosen and that entire states can just be written off and their economies allowed to crumble.
Got any facts or data to back up your wild claims? Any non partisan support? So up until 2008 anyone in a coal mine was making it rain until the evil black man rolled up into the White House and took thier money away huh? Has nothing to do with natural gas, fracking, or technological advances? Coal jobs have been sharply declining since the 80s when st Reagan was president. I guess he hated coal too? But we should definitely ruin our broader economy as well as the environment so we can prop up a dying industry that employs less people than Carl's Jr. does?
And yes, I don't care where my family lived previously, if there were no jobs where I lived I would move, not cry woe is me and go on the dole while speaking ill of "takers" at the same time. And for your nonsense about the rest of the nation subsidizing Democratic cities, again pls provide some facts as NY and CA contain two of biggest drivers of our economy, wall st and Silicon Valley, you know 21st century jobs that don't necessitate a race to the bottom.
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Old 09-25-2017, 09:43 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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You have no proof that coal mining prevents economic development in other sectors, and the fact is that liberals are against natural gas fracking too. Several West Coast states have banned the construction of LNG terminals (and Maryland too) because they don't want fracked natural gas being exported through there because they're against fracking. Hollywood's liberal prince Matt Damon even made a propaganda film that's all about opposing natural gas fracking. I believe in both fracking and coal mining. On the other hand, solar and wind power has not proven to be economically self-sufficient and even in sunny Nevada, it can't survive without state subsidies. Coal is the cheapest form of energy which is important when it comes to people's electricity bills.

Also, exposure to welfare recipients and illegal immigrants actually can make people vote more Republican as we truly resent the sense of entitlement that we see, when you are at the pharmacy picking up your medication that you have a copay on despite your insurance premiums while a ghetto person or an illegal who can't even speak proper English is arguing over something being $1 and not free, or when you are at the grocery store and seeing people from the ghetto act so entitled to food stamps. Like they DESERVE free food, free health care and free housing without having to work for it. On the other land the coal barons and oil company CEOs that you revile so much actually do provide jobs and their business contribute to the economy.
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Old 09-25-2017, 09:46 PM
 
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Well, I do know that" the stupid cons" apply to the entire country so there is that.
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Old 09-25-2017, 09:55 PM
 
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You have no proof that coal mining prevents economic development in other sectors, and the fact is that liberals are against natural gas fracking too. Several West Coast states have banned the construction of LNG terminals (and Maryland too) because they don't want fracked natural gas being exported through there because they're against fracking. Hollywood's liberal prince Matt Damon even made a propaganda film that's all about opposing natural gas fracking. I believe in both fracking and coal mining. On the other hand, solar and wind power has not proven to be economically self-sufficient and even in sunny Nevada, it can't survive without state subsidies. Coal is the cheapest form of energy which is important when it comes to people's electricity bills.

Also, exposure to welfare recipients and illegal immigrants actually can make people vote more Republican as we truly resent the sense of entitlement that we see, when you are at the pharmacy picking up your medication that you have a copay on despite your insurance premiums while a ghetto person or an illegal who can't even speak proper English is arguing over something being $1 and not free, or when you are at the grocery store and seeing people from the ghetto act so entitled to food stamps. Like they DESERVE free food, free health care and free housing without having to work for it. On the other land the coal barons and oil company CEOs that you revile so much actually do provide jobs and their business contribute to the economy.
You've literally proven over and over again you hav no facts, no clue, cheer for those that exploit you, and display racist tendencies. Every time I point this out and refute your dubious claims you ignore and repeat same drivel. I think you've done a wonderful job of answering the question posed by this thread.
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Old 09-28-2017, 11:29 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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And if the blue states are self sufficient, why do they so oppose the Cassidy-Graham Obamacare repeal which will allow California and other liberal states to keep their Obamacare and Medicaid expansion. Maybe they need the tax revenue from Texas, Florida, North Carolina, Georgia and other booming red states to pay for that expansion. I'd love to see California try their own single payer system and see that state collapse even worse than it already has.

Red states don't tell California what to do. We don't say that they can't have those ridiculous laws like the special blend gasoline that causes their gas to be the most expensive, we don't tell them they can't legalize gay marriage within their state and we don't try to shut down their abortion clinics. We don't tell Chicago and New York state they can't pass those stupid gun laws that violate the Constitution. But liberals want to act on the federal level to make us here in Louisiana allow more abortion clinics, to regulate our industries, force us to accept gay marriage, and try to force us to raise the minimum wage. See even if Roe vs Wade were repealed, liberal states will be allowed to permit abortion within their borders, just like Graham-Cassidy would still allow socialist medicine in the Blue states. But no, the liberals want to force their agenda on ALL of America.
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Old 10-09-2017, 09:52 AM
 
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What.... Trader Joe's does not only set up in wealthy neighborhoods. More elitist than Whole Foods? Have you BEEN to Trader Joe's (or WF for that matter)?
There business plan was leaked a couple of years ago and the threshold for household income was higher than whole foods in terms of where they set up shop.
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Old 10-09-2017, 12:49 PM
 
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Our stats here in Louisiana are heavily skewed by inner city New Orleans, which is mostly Democrat and has Democrat judges that let criminals off with a slap on the wrist. The suburban and rural Republican areas are very safe. West Virginia is also very safe, with some of the highest gun ownership rates and one of the lowest violent crime rates in the nation. Far safer than Chicago, Detroit and Baltimore.
Same in Chicago. Heavily skewed by Southside Chicago crime rate. Not all of greater Chicago is so crime ridden.
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Old 10-09-2017, 12:54 PM
 
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And if the blue states are self sufficient, why do they so oppose the Cassidy-Graham Obamacare repeal which will allow California and other liberal states to keep their Obamacare and Medicaid expansion. Maybe they need the tax revenue from Texas, Florida, North Carolina, Georgia and other booming red states to pay for that expansion. I'd love to see California try their own single payer system and see that state collapse even worse than it already has.

Red states don't tell California what to do. We don't say that they can't have those ridiculous laws like the special blend gasoline that causes their gas to be the most expensive, we don't tell them they can't legalize gay marriage within their state and we don't try to shut down their abortion clinics. We don't tell Chicago and New York state they can't pass those stupid gun laws that violate the Constitution. But liberals want to act on the federal level to make us here in Louisiana allow more abortion clinics, to regulate our industries, force us to accept gay marriage, and try to force us to raise the minimum wage. See even if Roe vs Wade were repealed, liberal states will be allowed to permit abortion within their borders, just like Graham-Cassidy would still allow socialist medicine in the Blue states. But no, the liberals want to force their agenda on ALL of America.
My, my those New Yorkers can't wait for all that tax money coming from those millionaires in Alabama and Louisiana! And California on the verge of collapse! Those high paid techies will race south for our high paying jobs and lifestyle.
By the way, in case you missed it. We are the United States.
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Old 10-09-2017, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Same in Chicago. Heavily skewed by Southside Chicago crime rate. Not all of greater Chicago is so crime ridden.
Seven neighborhoods make Chicago one of America's most dangerous cities.

Without those seven neighborhoods Chicago's level of crime would be considered average rather than super-high.
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