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Old 09-21-2017, 12:07 PM
 
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And to answer your question more directly, yes, as there are billions more people in the world than America needs, there are billions of people that I, as an American citizen, want to see denied the privilege of immigrating.
That makes you someone with a hypocritical mentality.
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Old 09-21-2017, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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This country has never been homogeneous.
Really? How do you figure that?
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The main problem in the USA isn't immigrants not assimilating it's multi-generational Americans de-assimilating from mainstream culture and otherwise engaging in self-destructive behavior that causes great cost to their society. I define American as being hard-working, valuing freedom, understanding personal responsibility, and having self-discipline. The most American people I've met are often first-generation immigrants who understand how great our system is. My work place is probably 25% immigrant (Vietnamese, Chinese, Hispanic, one Bosnian) and they work circles around most "real American' workers.
This is a different angle and a really great point. Change is accelerating. The thought processes and worldviews of some of the 16-22 year olds, the social media / smartphone generation, can seem downright alien.
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Old 09-21-2017, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Frisco, Texas
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I believe the people coming here today are appreciative of a new life. They know there will be challenges. They are assimilating, and helping to create the American culture of tomorrow.

Culture is ever-changing. A culture that's unchanging is a culture of a dead society. Culture is like language. If it isn't constantly evolving, it's dead.

You're right, I just hope the change is for good.
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Old 09-21-2017, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Frisco, Texas
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This is going to be a drive-by post. Quoting prominent activist Linda Sarsour:She's said on a number of occasions Muslims should not and need not assimilate.
And there many that feel like this.
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Old 09-21-2017, 03:04 PM
 
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It used to be a melting pot where everyone wanted to be American regardless of family heritage. They didn't hide their heritage but it wasn't thrown in the faces of other Americans. United we stand, divided we fall.
What you write is still true today. Especially of recent/second generation immigrants. They are as proud as any other American, and are often VERY fond of the country that allowed for them/their parents to immigrate.

This narrative that somehow immigrants today are unfaithful or anti-American is a strange one. I wonder how many real immigrants people holding who believe this narrative know. I've never encountered it in the immigrants I know (and I know quite a few). Are they often proud of their ancestry or heritage? Sure - but that doesn't mean they are not ALSO proud Americans.
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Old 09-21-2017, 03:04 PM
 
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LOl, so a culture has to evolve because it's no good on it's own? WTH kind of nonsense is that?
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Old 09-21-2017, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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So a group of people cannot own land? Like a family?
Sure. You have to mix your labor with it though.
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Old 09-21-2017, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Austin
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What American culture will we ultimately become??
Short term, say in 50 years, I will bet America culture will resemble Western European culture. Ubiquitous Muslim terrorism, high unemployment for the young, laws against free speech, minimal upward mobility for workers, and slow economic growth. I also predict Americans will have universal European style healthcare and lots and lots of tribal 'diversity'. I won't be around to see if I'm right, gratefully.
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Old 09-21-2017, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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This country has never been homogeneous.
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Really? How do you figure that?
Disregard. I must have been experiencing a fugue state, because in my mind's eye I thought that read "this country has never been more homogeneous."

Must have misread, clicked Multi-quote, and moved on.
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Old 09-21-2017, 03:16 PM
 
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Short term, say in 50 years, I will bet America culture will resemble Western European culture. Ubiquitous Muslim terrorism, high unemployment for the young, a repeal of the 1st amendment, minimal upward mobility for workers, and slow economic growth. I also predict Americans will have universal European style healthcare and lots and lots of tribal 'diversity'. I won't be around to see if I'm right, gratefully.

I think we'll be more like a Banana Republic. I guess some think that our identifying culture should evolve that way and it's a good thing?
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