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View Poll Results: Who had the most say on the final version of the bill?
Republicans had more influence on Obamacare 12 75.00%
Democrats had more influence on Repeal & Replace 1 6.25%
Both opposition parties had equal say on the final bill 3 18.75%
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-22-2017, 06:39 PM
 
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Regardless of who actually voted/votes on the respective plans... Who had the most input in shaping the final product?
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:42 PM
 
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Regardless of who actually voted/votes on the respective plans... Who had the most input in shaping the final product?
I recall a lot of changes being made to the ACA for Republicans. Specifically, 161 amendments were made by Republicans to the ACA legislation http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/hcr_amendments/

From what I'm hearing, few (if any?) Democrats have been tapped for input on Repeal and Replace efforts.


It would appear that the ACA was much more bipartisan than what we are seeing now. Which is too bad.


Someone please correct me here if I am wrong.
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:46 PM
 
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I recall a lot of changes being made to the ACA for Republicans. Specifically, 161 amendments were made by Republicans to the ACA legislation Fact-checking the GOP on healthcare reform - Salon.com

From what I'm hearing, few (if any?) Democrats have been tapped for input on Repeal and Replace efforts.


It would appear that the ACA was much more bipartisan than what we are seeing now. Which is too bad.


Someone please correct me here if I am wrong.
They won't bc you're aren't.
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:53 PM
 
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Democrats own ACA in its entirety. Why aren't they owning it? If it's so great they should be eager to claim 100% responsibility, which is the truth.
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:58 PM
 
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Democrats own ACA in its entirety. Why aren't they owning it? If it's so great they should be eager to claim 100% responsibility, which is the truth.
The ACA had plenty of Republican input and amendments added to it (http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/hcr_amendments/). I also think most Democrats do "own" the ACA...I don't see them running away from it.

That said, the question of this thread isn't about who "owns" the ACA (i.e. your point is not relevant to this thread) - it's about which process has had more bipartisan support. The ACA, so far, has been a much larger bipartisan issue than Repeal and Replace has (which, to my knowledge, has contained literally no Democratic input).


Of course, please correct if this is wrong.
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:58 PM
 
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Democrats own ACA in its entirety. Why aren't they owning it? If it's so great they should be eager to claim 100% responsibility, which is the truth.
Do you see Democrats not owning it?
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:02 PM
 
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Do you see Democrats not owning it?
Yes, constantly. Did you read this thread, which you wrote?
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:03 PM
 
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Yes, constantly. Did you read this thread, which you wrote?
This reply confuses me. Can you be specific?
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:04 PM
 
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This reply confuses me. Can you be specific?
The entire point of his thread is to shift responsibility for the ACA to Republicans. Not happening. You Libs own this disaster.
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:06 PM
 
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Regardless of who actually voted/votes on the respective plans... Who had the most input in shaping the final product?
It's not a matter of opinion.

It's public record.
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