Do you want to live in a country where the government forces you into public demonstrations of patriotism? (school, states)
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OMG - are you guys serious - yes let's throw it all away - no anthem, no pledge - no cops and no military. Welcome anarchy and the possibility of living under someone else's regime. Maybe you'll like that better.
So, if allowing people to kneel during the pledge leads to anarchy
Does, forcing people to stand during the pledge, similarly lead to totalitarianism?
OMG - are you guys serious - yes let's throw it all away - no anthem, no pledge - no cops and no military. Welcome anarchy and the possibility of living under someone else's regime. Maybe you'll like that better.
You forgot "no borders".
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Originally Posted by phma
One of the goals of primary education used to be to mold young people into good citizens with respect for the country they were born in.
Teaching them to hate their country was not thought to be in their best interest or a lofty goal of citizenship.
It was the government that required people be educated to the eight or ninth grade. Most people went along with that law and saw the value in have a population that could read and wright and do basic math.
Well, no one should have to be educated, right? Let's add "no education" required either. Some don't seem to be getting much from the time and money spent anyway.
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Originally Posted by MPowering1
President Obama was punitive toward whistleblowers and targeted journalists - and you're bitching about a comment Trump made about football???!!!!
You folks need to get your priorities straight and pay attention to what the pols you DID vote for are doing and be just as critical/vocal about it.
This is nothing compared to what Obama did.
They are simply mouthpieces for CNN, their priorities are spoonfed to them.
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Originally Posted by rstevens62
The founding fathers intended a system where govt FEARS the people, not the other way around.
Exactly! Think 2nd Amendment rights, of course, that is another thing for the "no" list also.
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Originally Posted by ambient
And yet you encourage the President's personal overreach of his Office - from his pressure for loyalty from top prosecutors to his public encouragement of censure against people who don't behave the way he likes. You're not serious.
There wouldn't be this discussion if Trump was doing a bad job. The resistance is dying. Hey, it could be worse, if we had a President Clinton, she wouldn't even let people live that didn't behave the way she liked, and there is history with the Clintons to prove that.
We, well those educated enough to actually think and reason, don't fall in line like the liberals. We weight what everyone says, to include Trump, and make up our own minds. We don't just follow the media like sheep (liberals). I guess since liberals do that with their "leaders", they expect that those that support are President are equally gullible.
We, well those educated enough to actually think and reason, don't fall in line like the liberals. We weight what everyone says, to include Trump, and make up our own minds. We don't just follow the media like sheep (liberals). I guess since liberals do that with their "leaders", they expect that those that support are President are equally gullible.
Good for you. So you used your "educated" mind to weigh that you like the precedent of public figures demanding retaliation for private citizens' freedom of expression, just because this event happens to fit with your own personal opinion. You're a real "freedom-loving Patriot."
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Not sure why it is so bad. Maybe it is the one nation under God part, I don't know. sheesh
The founding fathers intended a system where govt FEARS the people, not the other way around.
I don't fear Trump - I did fear Obama when he started to divide the races even more than they were and apologizing to other world countries for our nation.
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Not sure why it is so bad. Maybe it is the one nation under God part, I don't know. sheesh
Unsurprisingly, you've thoroughly missed the point.
It has nothing to do with it being "bad" or "good"
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Think 2nd Amendment rights, of course, that is another thing for the "no" list also.
