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View Poll Results: How do you see our country at the end of the 21st century?
Will remain a free democratic/republic, still a superpower 3 15.00%
Will remain a free democratic/republic, no longer a superpower 8 40.00%
Will become a totalitarian regime ruled with an iron fist by a brutal dictator 1 5.00%
Will be absorbed into a larger continental or global government 8 40.00%
Voters: 20. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-16-2008, 02:48 PM
 
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:29 AM
 
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Interesting that the polling doesn't show most people believing that America will ever be ruled by a totalitarian dictator.

If things continue the way they are going I foresee the continued erosion of our sovereignty and the absorbtion of our country into a "North American Union" type of government while we must obey the UN laws.
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:51 AM
 
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Interesting that the polling doesn't show most people believing that America will ever be ruled by a totalitarian dictator.

If things continue the way they are going I foresee the continued erosion of our sovereignty and the absorbtion of our country into a "North American Union" type of government while we must obey the UN laws.
Kind of like the EU? What would be wrong with that in your opinion.
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:15 AM
 
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Kind of like the EU? What would be wrong with that in your opinion.
Hmmm, other than the USA giving up it's sovereignty?

I think the question shouldn't be "what's wrong with that" but rather why does this seem to be OK?
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:37 AM
 
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Hmmm, other than the USA giving up it's sovereignty?

I think the question shouldn't be "what's wrong with that" but rather why does this seem to be OK?
Ok, so America gives up its sovereignty. In your scenario is this complete? Do states have the rights to govern locally in some capacity while submitting in other ways to this union government (again assuming it would be a EU sort of deal)? If so can you give me some ways you think this would be negative?
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:43 AM
 
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Ok, so America gives up its sovereignty. In your scenario is this complete? Do states have the rights to govern locally in some capacity while submitting in other ways to this union government (again assuming it would be a EU sort of deal)? If so can you give me some ways you think this would be negative?
Again, why is it alright for the US government to submit to a foreign entity?

That is the largest negative of them all and the fact that you do not see it as a negative tells me all I need to know.
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:46 AM
 
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Ok, so America gives up its sovereignty. In your scenario is this complete? Do states have the rights to govern locally in some capacity while submitting in other ways to this union government (again assuming it would be a EU sort of deal)? If so can you give me some ways you think this would be negative?
Millions of Americans have fought and died throughout our history so we could keep our sovereignty. Voluntarily giving that up to become part of a larger empire would be an act of betrayal against everything our nation has stood for. I doubt some supreme Prime Minister elected from Venezuela would care about our first amendment rights.
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:53 AM
 
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Again, why is it alright for the US government to submit to a foreign entity?

That is the largest negative of them all and the fact that you do not see it as a negative tells me all I need to know.
Umm I don't really care who submits to what really. As long as the PEOPLE of the country are treated fair, humane, have appropriate freedoms and are protected from tyranny. I don't really give a rats arse who is calling the shots.

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Millions of Americans have fought and died throughout our history so we could keep our sovereignty. Voluntarily giving that up to become part of a larger empire would be an act of betrayal against everything our nation has stood for. I doubt some supreme Prime Minister elected from Venezuela would care about our first amendment rights.
I don't care so much (personally) about the past. Gotta keep moving forward, however you could be right about the "supreme prime minister" thing. Maybe it could be a EU sort of thing instead of a evil emperor sort of scenario? (shrugs)

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Old 03-17-2008, 04:01 PM
 
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And this is precisely the problem with America today.

If someone can't see the problem with America being absorbed into some economic region then the propaganda has achieved its job. That apathy right there.

Too much of the US population doesn't give a MOD CUT about America - they only care about getting "BLING"!

They're no more American than the illegal who snuck in last night so he can buy cheaper bear and get free food and welfare and a big screen TV.

They alike don't care about the men who stormed the beaches of Normandy.

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