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Conservatives and their revisionist history. MLK's main opposition while he was alive came from white conservatives. Little black girls were blown up after church by a white conservative, white conservatives didn't want schools integrated, white conservatives lynched and murdered freedom riders... Should I go on?
It's disgusting how modern day conservatives like to attempt to rewrite history...
michelle obama said we need to rewrite our history.
latest movements based on lies and are not supported statistically.
charges of racism have been politicized and take the stream out of any honest effort of racial equailty. Too many charlatans crying wolf and the honest folks are drowned out in favor of political careers, profit and political agendas.
Better to ask that we all support unicorn farms.... until all the fear and hate mongering political nonsense has abated.
The 1960s Civil Rights Act. A higher percentage of GOP voted to pass it than did Dems.
Lets put this in context. Conservatives, but white conservatives in specific opposed the Civil Rights Act in high numbers. Many of these conservatives were Dixiecrats which was a group of Southern white conservative Democrats that supported segregation. Once the Democrat Party started to shift to a stance that was more inclusive these segregationist types shifted their allegiance to the GOP..
At one point the Republican Party was the Party of Lincoln but now it's just a place white supremacists and their sympathizers turn to for a homogeneous safe place...
michelle obama said we need to rewrite our history.
latest movements based on lies and are not supported statistically.
charges of racism have been politicized and take the stream out of any honest effort of racial equailty. Too many charlatans crying wolf and the honest folks are drowned out in favor of political careers, profit and political agendas.
Better to ask that we all support unicorn farms.... until all the fear and hate mongering political nonsense has abated.
Nothing I said can be refuted so your strategy is to shift the topic of discussion like most of the conservative posters on this site.. There isn't even one honest "effort" spearheaded by conservatives that concentrate on equality. You know this, I know this, we all know this...
I hear so many excuses as to why conservatives are against this protest, against that one. Then I tried to think of what type of movement for racial equality would conservatives support. I couldn't come up with one. Why don't conservatives just admit they don't support racial equality? That all their excuses are just coverups for the fact that they don't want a fair criminal justice system or racial equality. Let's go through some real-life examples:
Athletes/Non-athletes
When NFL players kneeled during the national anthem, conservatives said athletes should just shut up and play.
--but--
When non-athletes protest like during marches in D.C. and New York, conservatives have a problem with that too.
Flag/Non-flag
When NFL players kneeled during the anthem, conservatives said it was disrespectful of veterans.
--but--
There have been plenty of racial equality protests that take place when the national anthem isn't being played and when the flag isn't being flown. Conservatives still don't support them.
Hollywood/Non-Hollywood
When actors make political speeches during award shows, conservatives say Hollywood needs to stay out of it.
--but--
When millions of people across the country who aren't actors make the same points, conservatives bash them.
Violent/Non-violent
When black people get into physical altercations or damage property after hearing verdicts of cops being found not guilty, conservatives bash them for being violent.
--but--
When black people make peaceful protests such as NBA players simply wearing t-shirts that say "I Can't Breathe", conservatives call the act inappropriate.
Rich/Middle-class
When Hollywood, athletes, or other rich liberals make pleas for criminal justice reform, conservatives say those people are out of touch with what America wants because they're rich.
--but--
99% of the starters and participants in protests and racial equality movements are middle-class or poor; conservatives put down these people.
So will conservatives admit that they're just faking when it comes to being pro-flag, anti-rich, anti-athlete, etc.? Will conservatives finally be honest and admit that they will be against ANY AND ALL calls for criminal justice reform and racial equality? Tell the truth, shame the devil.
Conservatives as a rule oppose expanding or granting rights to anyone who doesn't have them. You will never see a Conservative movement supporting a push that gives some group a set of rights they didn't have before. That goes against everything they stand for.
Lets put this in context. Conservatives, but white conservatives in specific opposed the Civil Rights Act in high numbers. Many of these conservatives were Dixiecrats which was a group of Southern white conservative Democrats that supported segregation. Once the Democrat Party started to shift to a stance that was more inclusive these segregationist types shifted their allegiance to the GOP..
At one point the Republican Party was the Party of Lincoln but now it's just a place white supremacists and their sympathizers turn to for a homogeneous safe place...
The dixiecrats were not conservative. This is a myth that has been dismantled on this very board, which I'm sure you've seen, yet you disingenuously continue to promote it. Robert Byrd, for example was a tax and spend guy early in his career as a KKK leader, and later in his career when he cut ties with the KKK. Sam Ervin, signatory to the "Southern Manifesto" (in support of school segregation) was a particular liberal hero for his role in the Watergate hearings. Another signatory, J William Fulbright (mentor of Bill Clinton) was an early advocate of federal subsidies for higher education, certainly a cause near and dear to the heart of any liberal.
Conservatives as a rule oppose expanding or granting rights to anyone who doesn't have them. You will never see a Conservative movement supporting a push that gives some group a set of rights they didn't have before. That goes against everything they stand for.
Lets put this in context. Conservatives, but white conservatives in specific opposed the Civil Rights Act in high numbers. Many of these conservatives were Dixiecrats which was a group of Southern white conservative Democrats that supported segregation. Once the Democrat Party started to shift to a stance that was more inclusive these segregationist types shifted their allegiance to the GOP..
At one point the Republican Party was the Party of Lincoln but now it's just a place white supremacists and their sympathizers turn to for a homogeneous safe place...
20 of the 21 dixiecrats stayed democrat. Strom Turmond was the only one who switched. For over 20 years those 20 democrats never relinquished power to the republicans. They stayed democrats to the day they retired and when they retired they were replaced by a democrat.
Second to answer OP's question from post one, do you forget that it was Republican (and conservative) president Dwight Eisenhower who sent the 101st Airborne Division to Arkansas to ensure that schools would be desegregated? And Orval Faubus (D, AR) and for whom a young Bill Clinton served as driver, who stood in a schoolhouse doorway to block desegregation?
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Originally Posted by sockruhtese
If you're so proud of those acts, how do you defend the fact that you have no recent examples and have to go decades back? Why are modern conservatives against EVERY call for equality and fairness when it comes to non-white people?
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Originally Posted by wutitiz
I entirely expected this deflection. Why is it you can't comment on the Ike incident? Cat got your tongue?
Meeks argued that bad public schools were the 'number one problem in the black community....' He received consistent support from conservatives regarding this, and consistent rejection from Democrats and liberal interests, especially the teachers' unions.
I'm still waiting for a comment from the OP about Ike desegregating the public schools, while a Democrat (and mentor to Bill Clinton) stood in the school doorway trying to block it. Or about the Meeks case.
OP, why do Democrats, then and now, seek to block educational opportunities for black children, whereas conservatives, then and now, seek to expand same. Again, according to Rev. James Meeks, this is the #1 problem in the black community, and liberals are on the wrong side of the issue.
Lol... You prove it! List the movements that Conservatives have supported that have expanded access to rights. Name the causes where Conservatives fought to give rights to a group that didn't have them?
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