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There is not a single thing wrong with being a "centrist". Our country would be in much better shape if we had more "centrist" politicians.
Although, I'm not sure I consider Kasich a "centrist" on many issues - the fact that it's being used some sort of slight says a lot about the state of our political climate.
The centrist politicians reside in the GOP
The loony, far to the spectrum politicians are mostbof the Dems.
I've been coming to the conclusion that RINO as a term has very little meaning at all, beyond - "I don't like the guy even though he's registered as an R".
I think it says a lot more about the mental laziness of the person using using it than it does the person being labelled.
This sounds about right. These days, I've heard it used most often to describe people who oppose Trump about anything, and even applied to people who are actually far more fiscally conservative than he is. There is more to being a Republican than being a nationalist. Not agreeing with these folks on the right, but I have to feel a little sorry for them, considering the way they've had their party yanked from under their noses by Trump and others of his ilk.
Personally, I lean libertarian and was done with Kasich once he got caught telling a bunch of Republican donors that wanting to cut the welfare state was unchristian. That's not a policy or tactical disagreement that can be worked through, that's an insult. I think every other libertarian and a lot of down-the-line conservatives who heard that felt similar. Since then, he's repeatedly criticized the Trump administration and its supporters - who were the plurality of Republican primary voters - in a tone that implies they are bad people, not just that he disagrees with them on policy. He's insulted half the Republican base by now.
There is a general purging of RINOs going on that is more policy oriented, however Kasich individually has been caught up in it not because of policy (the Medicaid expansion put him on thin ice but other Republican governors who did it haven't caught the same level of blow-back) but because he has not been a team player and has actively and publicly gone out of his way to insult about half of the Republican coalition during and since his campaign for the Presidential candidacy.
No one expects a Bush Republican to lead the way on shrinking the welfare state or getting illegal immigration under control, but they need to not actively work against the rest of the party on things they care about or worse, insult them for it. You can't disrespect people today and lead them tomorrow.
He was absolutely a hardline conservative when he was considered an acolyte of Newt Gingrich. Don't call a poster a liar when you don't even know about Kasich's history.
He was absolutely a hardline conservative when he was considered an acolyte of Newt Gingrich. Don't call a poster a liar when you don't even know about Kasich's history.
Meh. It's what he does anytime he disagrees with someone: "You made that up."
Fact is, a lot of these people would probably call Reagan a RINO if he was still around. You can't fix crazy...
He was absolutely a hardline conservative when he was considered an acolyte of Newt Gingrich. Don't call a poster a liar when you don't even know about Kasich's history.
He was about as "center" as they come. It was the Kasich era that gave us the Wall Street mess. The raiding of Social Security. I don't understand people wanting more of that.
The loony, far to the spectrum politicians are mostbof the Dems.
Do you seriously consider the new Republican tax plan centrist?
Despite overwhelming poll results desiring controls on egregious drug pricing, do you consider Republican efforts to block or even consider any drug price controls centrist?
Similarly, a significant majority of Americans support abortion rights, largely opposed by Republicans.
The Republicans, much as with healthcare, have refused to pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill despite years of promises. This is more egregious because the House Republicans blocked a 2013 bill passed with bipartisan support, 68-32, in the Senate which, by now, would have greatly reduced illegal immigration.
The Republicans are a do-nothing party financed by the one-percenters, led by the one-percenters in the Trump administration, that engage in propaganda rather than carefully considered and researched legislation.
There is a lot to dislike about Democrats, but calling the Republicans "centrist" is a farce.
Do Republican posters in this thread consider Kasich a RINO on abortion issues?
Kasich late in 2016 signed a bill banning all abortions after 20 weeks.
<<A law without an exception for rape or incest that stops a woman from getting an abortion at 20 weeks, before an ultrasound can detect some of the most common fetal abnormalities and before scientific consensus says the fetus could survive outside the womb, is far from modest.>>
Kasich signed a bill imposing a gag rule on rape crisis counselors prohibiting them from telling victims that they had a legal right to an abortion.
<<When Kasich was ran for re-election in 2014, he and his opponent Ed FitzGerald participated in a taped interview with the Cleveland Plain Dealer. FitzGerald asked the governor about the 2013 budget provision that prevented rape crisis counselors from letting victims know they have a legal right to an abortion. “Why was it important to have a piece of legislation that literally imposed a gag rule on rape crisis counselors?” FitzGerald asked. “Do you have a question?” Kasich replied. After some coaxing from the Plain Dealer, Kasich said he was pro-life except in instances of rape or incest, but refused to address the provision’s effect on rape victims.>>
So Ohio Republicans legislated a gag rule on rape counselors prohibiting them from discussing an abortion option with rape victims. Kasich approved this gag rule. Do posters in this thread consider this a "centrist" position?
This hilarious as an Ohioan I can safely state Kasich is no RINO. It's funny that the GOP has moved so far right that kasich is deemed a rino. He has passed strict abortion laws, damn near closed every planned parenthood clinic in Ohio and has suppressed voting by purging valid voters and limiting early voting. So please tell me how those are actions of a RINO?
Supported the expansion of Medicaid in OH and talked about St Peter asking what you did for the poor.
The poor are losers undeserving of medical care they cannot afford out of pocket.
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