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Today I find myself asking if the media's coverage of these shootings shares a part of the blame. I find myself just having to stay away from the news today after relentless hour after hour of coverage. I am so sick of seeing this madman's picture on my tv screen. They probably showed him 100 times yesterday.
But I was also surprised to hear them say that mass shootings happen every day. The vast majority don't make national news. Because national news only cares about the body count. So these pieces of human garbage know that they can get worldwide attention by upping the body count. This guy didn't just show up at the concert and start blasting away. It was calculated and planned from a strategic location that would give him the ability to kill as many people as long as possible before the cops found him.
The Orlando club shooting dominated the news for what, like a week? And then they moved on. The media doesn't care about the victims. How many followup stories later to see how the survivors were coping? Zero that I know of.
The MSM is very anti-gun and spins things to suit their agenda. There are incidents in Lexington, for example, about every week where someone randomly shoots up someone's house. If there's more than one bullet fired it probably be classified to them as a mass shooting just to play on emotions. There are so many shootings in Lexington, KY that it's to be expected. People aren't usually surprised anymore when it hits the news. People get robbed and shot at so much in Lexington it's almost a daily thing. I avoid Lexington as much as possible. But the shootings in Lexington don't hit national news.
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Terrorism is ideologically, politically, or religiously motivated.
If it comes out that this guy was some religious cult member raging against the "sin" of Las Vegas then it could be considered terrorism.
So far it looks like he's just a random nut case.
Dylan Roof is white, and I consider him a terrorist. Even my firmly conservative (but not alt-right) brother said he was a terrorist. , precisely for the reasons as I gave to him "terrorism is violence used to make a social or political statement or change social or political practices". So yes, even white guys who shoot anybody, even a relatively small group of people for those reasons are usually labeled terrorist (and rightfully so).
This guy in Las Vegas? So far, he's just simply a mass murderer who did his dirty deed for unknown reasons. But so far there's no evidence he was motivated by a social or political cause. If and when solid evidence surfaces that he did so on behalf of some or another political or cultural group, then I'll start calling him a terrorist. In the meantime, I'm going for the less dramatic term of "mass murderer".
Yes, they are. Federal Law: felons cannot have guns. 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1). In Chicago (and everywhere else), felons have guns. That Federal Law prevents nothing.
Why? CRIMINALS DON'T OBEY LAWS.
Criminals don't obey laws so lets make guns available to them! Does that make sense to you?
As previously stated, let all of the military and LE use that new smart gun technology for a year and then you'll have buy in from the public. Should be easy, right? If it's so good.
good try but obviously police and military should be exempt. not so personal weapons.
Looking at the thickness of that mag that one is 7.65 x 51.
Nope. You cali guys won't see those... those thick mags are junk. 4 to 5 runs out of them and the springs are worn. They're junk. Which could explain the pauses between the gunfire.
Had 2 of them and used them as targets. Absolute pure crap, double feeding due to poor feed lip strength and chintzy springs.
We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Why should elected officials have more rights? They do. They rake in big bucks and enjoy the protections of armed guards. Do you? I dont. I have weapons and am proficient with them, as well as Krav maga. That's a right of theirs. Same with their immunity to the health insurance us sheep are forced to have. Think about that... if it was so great, why aren't they held to the same standards as us?
Life liberty and pursuit of happiness.
My pursuit of happiness is different from yours. Clearly.
My life is different than yours. I grew up in the sticks of upstate NY where 911 was a 27 minute average response time.
I don't need anyone to hold my hand. I'm a capable able bodied man.
Want my answer to stop this stuff.
You are not going to like it.
Stop relying on police. When seconds matter they're minutes away.
Casino and hotel owners can put metal detectors and do this and do that. That's trading liberty for comfort.
School shootings easy. Arm the teachers. In NY we had lock down drills. Shut the blinds get on the floor teacher locks the door. Pfft. Okay, great now what? Lay there to be minced meat? No. Arm the teachers. We have armed guards for bank trucks and they're far more rewarding to attack than innocent defenseless children. If I was a teacher you bet your bottom dollar I'd keep my pistols on me. Spare mags to boot. Soon as the fire erupts if it's not close by. Kids hit the deck plug your ears. You and you shut the blinds now. Id lock the door. I'll get behind cover with that gun on the door reducing anything the shooter can tag. Moment the shooter comes to that door I'm squeezing that trigger until the magazine is empty and slap a fresh one in and drop the slide lock and stay put until I hear the police give the all clear.
I'd keep the door shut. And my head on a swivel. Someone armed opens that door. Left or right he's getting dropped.
Church shootings. Easy. Have a concealed carry permit? Carry your gun. Bad guy walks in. Make minced meat out of him.
Pulse nightclub. Obviously booze and firearms don't mix.
Allow the bar and nightclub staff to carry.
Gun free zones = target rich environments. Encourage everyone to become proficient in the handling of their weapon. Someone starts shooting. Decide whether you are going to fight or flee. If flee do it smart. Don't gather like cattle. Zig zag and GTFO OF THERE!
If you're going to fight don't draw until the bad guy is in sight and put him down.
Now in this scenario it wouldn't be from the ground to 500 yards away and 32 stories up making a 1 in a million shot with a pistol. This would be someone on that floor shoots that door off its hinges and caps that evil SOB.
I was born in 87. The only things I'm aware of that were ever implemented were become a target and guns are bad mmkay... I'm not a sheep.
Obviously gun free zones and a soft optimistic and unrealistic utopia hasn't worked in the 30 years I've been alive. Further more.
Why did my father's generation, the baby boomers, get a pass at carrying firearms in their gun racks to school and no shootings take place? Seems strange to me...
When I was in high school the juniors and seniors would park their vehicles outside with rifles visible and nothing ever happened. I've had people walk around me armed before and it didn't phase me at all. Didn't even notice. I've had worse things happen to me than being shot so guns don't even give me pause. I'll never understand how paranoid people get over someone carrying a weapon.
I learned the hard way that the cops are useless and don't care what happens to me. It was a time when the government wouldn't allow me to buy a gun because I wasn't old enough but the government allowed me to be raped and mutilated by one of its own. I never want to be disarmed again.
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not so personal weapons.
Why did my father's generation, the baby boomers, get a pass at carrying firearms in their gun racks to school and no shootings take place? Seems strange to me...
