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I've talked to others and I've got to say, this has got to be the smartest mass shooter we've seen yet. Why?
1. He was high up in a skyscraper. He had the high ground and it would no doubt take a long time for SWATs and others to get to him so they could eradicate/stop him. Minutes probably, when seconds count.
2. Massive crowd below with many that were trapped and could not run away. If you were going for the high score death count, this would be how you do it.
3. Shoots himself once he knows the SWATs are on him. If he was smarter, he would have made it more difficult for them to penetrate the door somehow, increasing the time he has to shoot others before he shoots himself.
4. Because the killer is dead now, he won't have to deal with seeing any of the families of those he killed or any of the other legal mumbo jumbo that will result from this.
1) Why will he kill himself 40-50 minutes before SWAT actually entered the Room?
It would have stalled his continuity of fire and concentration on the crowd below wouldn't it?
Would have done more for those below to get out of that situation if a distraction presented itself and done more for the innocent than the ideas currently floating around of TSA style check ins and running presidential inauguration type security for entertainment events now wouldn't it?
The feeble seek the actions of others to be protected.
I used to run into burning buildings at 18-26 which also could have resulted in being very dead too.
You wanted an answer I gave you one. Don't like it. Ohwell.
The security guard he shot through the door didn't stall his fire very much, but it did stall the police response. He is watching a monitor, sees you coming up the hallway, turns around points the gun at the door, sees when you are in front of it or the walls beside it shoots through the door or walls before you take your first swing, you are now either wounded and crawling away like the security guard or dead, turns back around when he sees on the video feed you have been neutralized. In a lot of situations you might be right, in this particular situation he had meticulously prepared for exactly what you are talking about.
Hey, while we are making nonsense suggestions that skirt the heart of the issue... How about we pass the silencer laws that the NRA is pushing for now so that people won't even realize they are being shot down like animals until it is far too late. More people killed in the process! I'm sure, those silencers are essential for hunters out in the woods.
I don't know but when the thing that is the most dangerous is the thing that they scream for the least regulation, it makes one wonder. No one said they cannot buy them but it is reasonable to suggest some questions are asked. What this Paddock was allowed to accumulate with no questions asked? It is reasonable to have that discussion.
So, what happens if "they" don't like your answer? Once you start regulating or registering, there is a means to deny.
Yes, no questions asked. It's a right. Period. You don't get to limit it. Period.
It would have stalled his continuity of fire and concentration on the crowd below wouldn't it?
Would have done more for those below to get out of that situation if a distraction presented itself and done more for the innocent than the ideas currently floating around of TSA style check ins and running presidential inauguration type security for entertainment events now wouldn't it?
The feeble seek the actions of others to be protected.
I used to run into burning buildings at 18-26 which also could have resulted in being very dead too.
You wanted an answer I gave you one. Don't like it. Ohwell.
If you mean Single shooter enters a constrained area shoots and kills several people, then if white males commit 63% of those, it's probably within statistical tolerance based on the fact that women commit almost zero mass shootings, so we're already down to 50% population, and 63% is roughly the statistical slice of white males in the male segment.
If you mean one of the allegedly just under 300 mass shootings this year (four people shot and injured) then it's not 63% white, it's probably less than 30%, a lot of those just under 300 mass shootings are gang related black on black.
However I think you're conflating the Mass Shooting tracker criterion Mass Shootings | Gun Violence Archive and what the FBI (and surprisingly Mother Jones, well known link no need to republish) considers a mass shooting 4 or more killed in an indiscriminate public rampage. However even the actual circumstances vary because the FBI criterion excludes things like multiple shooters (more than 3), so a 5 on 5 gunfight in Gary Indiana isn't going to enter the FBIs records as a mass shooting (even if there are 5 deaths) which is fair in my opinion, the mass shooting concern isn't really focused on a gang war in the inner cities, but on random events with high casualty counts caused by one or two perpetrators.
So while there may be 63% of the FBI mass shootings being white men, it's distribution is normal given the percentage of men who commit mass shootings (~100%) and the percentage of those men who are white.
How to stop a shooter 32 floors up?
Had I been in the same building I'd have attempted to. The time it was carried out I'd have been in my room getting ready for bed... some hotels I've stayed at have a fire extinguisher and axe present. I'd have attempted to bust out around the door frame or through a wall.
Define common sense law. I keep hearing common sense between the incoherent ramblings of folks who know nothing of what they seek to ban.
LOL, no hotel ('cept maybe in the northern reached of Canada ) hangs axes in the hallways.
This lady Marylou Danley is a mysterious person. Citizen of Australia but originally from Phillipines, multiple marriages and boyfriends in USA, Australia-worked in Las Vegas casinos. What is her immigration status in USA?
The weapons he used mean very little to me. WHY is my question. What would even remotely make someone do this? This is a extra special kind of twisted, evil. Had he been an Islamowacko, or some other fanatic terrorist type I could wrap my head around it somewhat but this was just some guy from Mesquite. Over 100 grand worth of weapons he brought into the hotel room. He was well financed, and that raises a red flag for me. We have a huge country music festival in my home town here every year. It's sort of a country Woodstock and attracts 20 thousand plus fans. Fleets of RVs, tents, it's huge. This azzbag could have picked this event to hit and my son attends this event every year, mainly for the bull riding event since he's a rider, but he and his wife are both modern country music fans as well.
I'm an avid 2A supporter. I believe in the right to keep and bear arms. I'm wracking my brain trying to think of a way that someone like the LV shooter could have been stopped, and I'm coming up blank. There are scads of laws in place to prevent such things, and he broke every one of them. Most hotel casinos require firearms to be checked. They don't allow guests to take them to their rooms. There are certain places where even CCW holders are not allowed to carry. Casinos are one such, as are federal buildings, banks, and anyplace posted no firearms. Hospitals and doctors offices come to mind.
And this cretin brought in enough firepower to equip a forward deployed combat unit into a hotel casino. Laws,rules, and most importantly with no sense of anything resembling a conscience all figured in. This venue was made up off mostly quite young people, just kids really. Young people just having a good time. What would motivate someone to open fire on a crowd like this with no incentive other than to just kill I just can't fathom. That all these weapons were supposedly purchased legally doesn't quite ring true to me. I heard it said he bought them in several different states. That can't be. One must be a resident to buy a firearm in a particular state. I can't walk into a gun store in Utah with my NV ID and buy a firearm. As the investigation progresses, it may turn up some straw purchases.
And the money this guy was throwing around? We're talking serious cash assets here. He doesn't fit the profile of someone who got that rich on pure talent. I would be very interested to know where he got his hands on cash resources like that. There doesn't seem to be a terrorist connection, drug cartels or any such organizational affiliation. But man! This guy had some serious cash at his disposal. I believe I'd be looking at that aspect very closely. He wired another 100 grand to his wife in the PI prior to heading out on his....mission, he had well over another 100 grand worth of hardware,that kind of cash doesn't grow on trees. Following the money here might very well turn up some interesting facts behind this.
There's way more involved here than just an issue of gun laws and types of firearms. Yea, it's a great excuse to start yacking about gun control, but there's a way deeper issue here somewhere.
Actually you can buy guns in states you don't reside in. You can't "cash and carry" them like a resident can but you can transfer them to an FFL in your home state. People buy guns across the internet all the time using this method.
Something is really off in this whole deal. Long planning, no digital footprints to speak of and nobody who knows him knows anything. He wasn't "crazy" in the usual definition, he didn't just "snap" either. Wouldn't surprise me if it's political or religious when the motive finally is figured out.
I'm placing my bet/guess on political.
1) Why will he kill himself 40-50 minutes before SWAT actually entered the Room?
Because he didn't think it was going to take them so long.
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) hangs axes in the hallways.
