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I’m not concerned that there will be some mass incarceration similar to Japanese citizens where they will enter homes and take away guns, not in 2017. Maybe in the 1700’s but not today.
Humanity has been here before and got way too far down the road in America: "First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)
Not to disparage MADD, but people are still driving drunk. Maybe we can ban the sale, use and possession of all alcoholic beverages? Oh, wait a minute we tried that and it didn't work.
One thing they could do is put a coupla' squad cars in front of every bar and follow it's patrons to their vehicles. Of course that wouldn't stop people from drinking at home and then getting into there vehicles. Maybe we could put a squad car in front of every home?
We already have gun control with thousands of federal, state and local laws that address both the criminal and negligent mis-use of firearms along with a list of conditions on who can lawfully possess them. What you really mean is the eventual confiscation of every civilian owned firearm.
As I mentioned in an earlier post is that it will take people with guns to do it. The consequences of which will ignite a civil war.
No law is foolproof but MADD was very successful. Some will always violate laws, that doesn’t mean they didn’t address the problem. We haven’t had meaningful legislation on the national level for decades. The minority is dictating national policy through their lobby, there will not be a revolution, nothing ever changes.
MADD got BAC limits lowered to 0.08. How did that effect those that were driving at 0.30? As far as cellphones we have awkward, difficult to hear and use "hands-free" and really bizarre dash and steering column controls to turn their legal use into an audition for the gong show. And how does cutting the speed limit from 40 to 30 deter a reckless teen who is driving 100? You're going to say "we have to do something."
Why not adopt the tactics in the movie "Network" and scream in unison "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more."
I'm debating certain aspects of MADD. Some was good, other stuff not so much.
Agreed.
I do not like how we age discriminate in this country. You are either an adult or you are not.
If we hold people responsible as adults at 18, then they should be able to enjoy the privs of being an adult. MADD made the government decide, however, that such was not to be the case.
Personally, I would like to see that if people are not, fully, adults at 18, then they are not held responsible as adults, they do not fight in wars, and they are not taxed.
However, in view to the thread, perhaps that is something we share with the rest of the world in that we define who is a child and who is not to the whims of the State.
If I had said that you would have a point. Being as I didn't say that, all I can do is suggest you get someone with better reading comprehension skills than yourself to read what I said and explain to you with picture drawings or something.
If you wish to claim I did in fact say this, feel free to quote my post where I did so. But heres a clue, chief. I was talking quantities.
Okay doctor how many guns should private owners be limited to?
I was 11 years old when Martin Luther King (well one day shy of 11) and Bob Kennedy were shot. I remember thinking "what if we just took the guns away"? That is the level of thought of some on this thread.
Well yes demographics, poverty level, changes in police actions, jobs and many other things make a difference.
Exactly, you've just effectively eliminated guns as the "cause" of the violence in Chicago, Baltimore, Camden, Compton, etc., etc.
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Just jumping on guns as a solution is lacking any other external factors but as usual more guns is the answer like some strange wheel of fortune that always has the same response.
Actually, it's not a strange reaction, at all. While gun ownership has increased by 50% over the last 20 years, the gun homicide rate has decreased by 50%, and the nonfatal violent gun crime rate has decreased by 76%.
I posted the stats earlier. Sources: Centers for Disease Control, Congressional Research Service (under the authority of the Library of Congress), and Pew Research.
We need a rational and logical approach to this, to include critical think skills... NOT just the irrational and overly-emotional knee-jerk reaction to ban/control guns.
Have any of you noticed the irony of the fact that it's irrational and overly-emitional nut cases who commit crimes like the LV shooting, and the left's knee-jerk go to response is to be similarly irrational and overly-emotional in their demands for gun bans/control?
Well yes, around 200,000 guns are lost or stolen per year, I know whats a few hundred thousand guns gone missing. The example referenced is a perfect example of how careless some gun owners are, everyone is responsible until they are not.
You know... We're in the middle of a B&E epidemic in our County. Criminals are breaking into locked homes and cars and stealing cash, jewelry, and guns (Remember when it used to be electronics? Not any more!).
How much more responsible can anyone be than to lock up their personal possessions?
Exactly, you've just effectively eliminated guns as the "cause" of the violence in Chicago, Baltimore, Camden, Compton, etc., etc.
Actually, it's not a strange reaction, at all. While gun ownership has increased by 50% over the last 20 years, the gun homicide rate has decreased by 50%, and the nonfatal violent gun crime rate has decreased by 76%.
I posted the stats earlier. Sources: Centers for Disease Control, Congressional Research Service (under the authority of the Library of Congress), and Pew Research.
We need a rational and logical approach to this, to include critical think skills... NOT just the irrational and overly-emotional knee-jerk reaction to ban/control guns.
Have any of you noticed the irony of the fact that it's irrational and overly-emitional nut cases who commit crimes like the LV shooting, and the left's knee-jerk go to response is to be similarly irrational and overly-emotional in their demands for gun bans/control?
What's up with that?!? /SMH
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