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No need to beat around the bush, it is black gang members who do most of the gun violence.[/quot
Actually I believe the Hispanic gangs have grown in numbers and power now far more so than Black gangs. Cartel alliances have made them this way. Regardless, when these gangs control and basically govern large swaths of our urban areas that's a problem. There are mini cartels all over US cities. It's something that cannot be tolerated and the only way to remove them is via force of arms.
But the cash flow these rodents have is staggering. That also presents an issue. A poster mentioned earlier about stopping all this nonsense with the "war" on drugs. I believe he is correct. That is their cash cow. Without the flow of illegal drugs they are effectively neutered. No money no power, no power, Defeat. What we have is the Volstead act on steroids right now. These cartels and their gang allies make Copone and company look like penny ante operators. The latter became very rich (especially for the times) just running alcohol. And they're street corner beggars next to these modern cartels.
Unless their source of revenue is removed, they will continue to grow both here in the US and South of the border. Taking out their operations down South cannot be done with force. The countries they are in will not allow it. Whether these countries admit it or not, they are under cartel control. Their GDP for a year doesn't equal the cartels for a single day.
They have an ocean of guns, and put them in the hands of their gang allies here in the US by the freight train load. Gun control laws are certainly not the answer. The "war on drugs" is a dismal failure. The path we should take is obvious. Yet still the politicians fiddle as we burn.
Gangs were controlling the inner cities when I was growing up in the 50s. Nothing new about it. Except many of the gangs were white then.
There it is, and though true that incarceration rates for blacks are disproportionately high, especially for young black men, comments like this seem to suggest the issue is DNA related, racist.
There are people who can understand this complex problem in a bit better way, and then there are those who can't of course. Also of course, many who voted for Trump are those who can't, because of much the same sort of "thinking."
Blacks are 13.8% 0f the population and commit 50% of the murders. Black kids in some areas grow up with gun use and drug use considered normal.
True. But that doesn't change the fact that the rate of violent crime in the black community is significant, and way out of proportion to their percentage of the population, which is the point that was brought up.
Often this gun use is due to personal conflicts, crime, and the unfortunate consequence of living in crime ridden neighbourhood.
Mass murders on the other hand are random, inspired by hate, and rage and ease of getting hold of guns.
Often this gun use is due to personal conflicts, crime, and the unfortunate consequence of living in crime ridden neighbourhood.
Mass murders on the other hand are random, inspired by hate, and rage and ease of getting hold of guns.
Careful, you might break something stumbling all over yourself, trying to rationalize a violent crime epidemic in this country.
Violent crime committed by blacks is understandable and due to circumstances outside their control, but if committed by whites, it's hate, rage, and guns.
Gangs were controlling the inner cities when I was growing up in the 50s. Nothing new about it. Except many of the gangs were white then.
Ummm...wow. Where to begin? I guess with the fact that there can be no comparison made with gangs from the 50s with gangs now. It's like watching West Side Story and then watching Colors. And Colors is three decades old now. Flip up from there to something like New Jack City and multiply again. Things back in the 50s were settled with fists, and if the beef got bad chains and knives or whatever else was handy.
A gun of any kind let alone an automatic weapon were not really in the picture. Rarely was a gun used. That has changed significantly and that's understating it. Back in the 50s the police could roust a gang and put a mud hole in them and never draw their service revolver. Now, it's a tactical team matter and even beat cops are carrying M4s in addition to a hi cap sidearm and a shotgun. And there's no way that a single officer can even think about responding to a call in certain areas. And those calls are usually a shots fired or some other violent crime. Domestics are common, and those are dangerous enough anywhere.
Gangs may have stakes out turf in the 50s, but equating that to the control that gangs have in very large areas is diamonds and coal on the evolutionary scale.
There it is, and though true that incarceration rates for blacks are disproportionately high, especially for young black men, comments like this seem to suggest the issue is DNA related, racist.
Im wondering why even the FBI itself tracks the gun crime stats by race. And we all know it usually isn't white boys shooting at and killing each other every weekend in Chicago.
The FACT is that the same group most likely to vote Dem is ALSO the same group most likely to commit gun homicides and non fatal violent gun crimes. It's a certain mindset. One not held by right-wingers.
If that rankles... time to do some soul searching.
My idea was simple, or did you not understand that we should burn our trash...
Give the people liberty to live as the please. The moment they cross the line harsh punishment. It's a very simple concept to understand...
Therfore I am not concerned for society. I only worry about myself. Law is law. I'd like some laws changed but harsh punishments for breaking them.
Your lack of self-awareness is impressive.
Left side of mouth - I don't care about society
Right side of mouth - Harsh punishments are good for society
As asked many times before, EXACTLY WHAT NEW LAW WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS SHOOTING? Please be specific. Thanks.
According to gun control advocate, never met a firearm law she didn't like, Diane Feinstein (D), CA (of course) no new laws would have prevented it, but that doesn't stop them from trying to exploit innocent deaths to push their political agenda.
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