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Old 10-02-2017, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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We cannot continue to endure this carnage, claim we are saddened by these events, excuse the perpetrators as "nuts', "crazy", or a "political extremist", do nothing to try and prevent the proliferation of weapons of war by civilians, but insist we really care about the safety and security of our people.

Our national hypocrisy is costing people their lives and creating senseless suffering.

Enough is enough.

Please.
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:05 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Chicago had some of the strictest gun laws in the nation, yet the firearm related murder rate was one of the highest.

When you regulate firearms, only the law abiding citizens are affected. The people who wish to do harm won't follow the law.
But, if there's no law, how do you punish those caught trying to do harm?

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Regulating firearms isn't getting to the root of the problem. Treating mental illness is a good start.
Regulating motor vehicles doesn't stop accidents either, but doesn't it make sense they're registered so there's at least a chance of finding someone like a hit & run driver?
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Behind enemy lines
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I suppose with 58 bodies to stand on, you feel pretty secure WAAAYYYY up there on your soapbox
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:10 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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We cannot continue to endure this carnage, claim we are saddened by these events, excuse the perpetrators as "nuts', "crazy", or a "political extremist", do nothing to try and prevent the proliferation of weapons of war by civilians, but insist we really care about the safety and security of our people.

Our national hypocrisy is costing people their lives and creating senseless suffering.

Enough is enough.

Please.

It's not the guns, it's the people.

The Las Vegas shooter reportedly owned several aircraft, would we be calling for the banning of light aircraft had he loaded one with a bomb or deliberately crashed one into a crowded venue?

How do you legislate against the suicidal determined to take others with them?
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...cs-maps-charts

some interesting stats and graphs regarding gun violence in America vs other places.

IMO we need stricter gun laws. What we have right now isn't working and the amount of gun deaths is staggering.
Anyone who has been paying attention knows that strict gun control areas have higher violence.
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:12 PM
 
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It's not the guns, it's the people.

The Las Vegas shooter reportedly owned several aircraft, would we be calling for the banning of light aircraft had he loaded one with a bomb or deliberately crashed one into a crowded venue?
If he'd planted a bomb in the middle of the crowd would we calling for restrictions on materials necessary to build bombs?
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Now is no the right time to talk about guns, stop politicizing the issue.
There, just saved a bunch of righties a bunch of time. You're welcome.
Make something else up while trying to sound clever.
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:15 PM
 
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Nobody should be allowed to have weapons that make mass killings easy. You know, common sense laws.

Worked for Australia, can work here too.
They didn't ban fire, which skyrocketed as a means of mass murder after their gun grab. Just sayin.....
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Nobody should be allowed to have weapons that make mass killings easy. You know, common sense laws.

Worked for Australia, can work here too.
Hand guns kill more people than all the other guns combined. You want to ban them? How's the gun ban working out in Venezuela?
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:16 PM
 
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That's the equivalent of spending $20 million to bribe a bank worker to give you the alarm codes and vault combination to a bank with $1 million on hand.
Funny thing is that the total cost of the war on terror is estimated to be around $2 trillion by end of this year. Pretty easy to find that missing $2.4 trillion now. Of course the spending also generates billions in our economy for government and contractors.
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