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I can't think of anything more horrifying than if the Las Vegas shooter had silencers on all his guns. Those people would have been dropping all around and no one would have any idea at all - it would have taken much more time for news to spread that a shooting was happening are far far more people would have died as a result.
There is no such thing as a silencer. With a sound "suppressor" a gun is still louder than a jackhammer.
Hearing damage from firearms is a very real thing. Suppressors are legal in most of Europe, in fact it is considered polite to use them there. I don't know why they are illegal here, and require a FFL, Tax Stamp etc. I guess they have been demonized by Hollywood as an assassins tool. More disinformation from the Left.
Sub-sonic ammunition is deadly enough to serve the purposes of a madman. The use of silencers for hunting should not be allowed, as it would reduce the warning that its victims would receive, that they were targets.
No, it wouldn't. The bullet travels faster than the speed of sound.
I am not anti-gun but could someone explain the need for silencer legislation to me
Here is what the sponsor said
Duncan argues that silencers are used by hunters and target shooters to limit potential hearing loss from gunfire. Duncan introduced a stand-alone silencer bill, dubbed the “Hearing Protection Act," in January. That legislation currently has 160 co-sponsors, including several
Could a silencer be used on the weapons used in the LV massacre. If so how many more victims would there have been
Supressors are irrelevant to reducing gun violence or preventing carnage.
More pleasant to shoot a firearm with a supressor, especially when sighting in, targter shooting.
Not sure a silencer is that effective with large caliber firearms.
Great for small caliber pistols, 22 cal rifles.
"Smaller diameter bullets make less noise than larger diameter bullets. Supersonic is supersonic. A bullet traveling 366 m/s or 1,200 fps will make about the same noise as one traveling 1220 m/s or 4,000 fps. Projectiles that are .308 inch in diameter will be somewhat louder than .223 bullets. There is no technology which can remove the sound of a supersonic projectile, no matter what claims are made to the contrary."
When do they wear out, 10 rounds, 200, what’s the number. Why do you want them on firing ranges if it’s an issue.
They wear out during rapid, extended fire. No one shoots like that at a range. In fact, every range I've ever been to specifically prohibits that type of firing. The main reason for not allowing rapid fire is that it's not accurate fire. People who go to a range are going to maintain or improve their accuracy. With a handgun, that usually mean about 5 rounds at a time. With my rifle, I fire a single round every minute or two.
First off silencers are not banned. Its a $200 tax stamp and a wait of 8 months to a year to get one. The current proposed legislation removes the tax and has a normal background check. Please tell what cops are being killed by silencers. Your statement is wrong.
All unconstitutional.
Arms....It is plural with no absolute in amount, form or function. Why add more wording the 2nd Amendment than has already been added without amendment.
Congress can make no unconstitutional law. The 1934 Firearms Act is unconstitutional.
The law stating you must be 21 to purchase a firearm is unconstitutional
The law stating felons are not permitted to buy or own a firearm, is unconstitutional.
The law stating the mentally ill walking freely in society, cannot buy or own a firearm, is unconstitutional.
Conceal and open carry laws are unconstitutional.
At what point is a person, not a person? I'll tell you. When one is in bondage, incarcerated or dead.
Other than that, the RIGHT(rights are individual rights, not collective) of the people to keep(where ever the individual wants) & bear(carry at all times), shall not be infringed.
Your rights and my rights, as a sovereign individual, do not come from Congress, 9 people in robes, or any other person.
The text of the Bill of Rights was so simple, everyone could understand it. No words or definitions needed. The text defined it as much as they wanted it to be defined.
All the openness is called individual liberty, for the people to choose for themselves, individually.
Ah, so now we need silencers for hunting. And we're so worried about our sensitive ears!
The entire surrounding environment suffers 25-30db less severe noise from firing a rifle/shotgun. That makes the activity safer.
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And the semi-auto assault rifles with large-capacity mags are for what exactly? To make sure we really got that wild turkey?
Hunting is one use for semiautomatic rifles, self defense is another. In any scenario, more rounds per magazine means less reloading. More than anything, at the range, having higher capacity magazines means less range time spent jamming rounds into magazines during paid range time, more time practicing marksmanship. See, 99.9999% of legal firearm owners use their weapons for sport, marksmanship training, and hunting. All perfectly legal, responsible activities. Those people have probably loaded magazines more times than they can count, can probably drop and reload magazines in less than 2 seconds and be back on target, but would prefer during practice or extended use time (like varmint clearing an entire farm for example) to have to carry fewer actual magazines and reload less often, as it is tedious.
You see the astronomically rare exception and from it are trying to create a rule. Literally (do the math), less than one in a million owners of a semiautomatic rifle will use it for anything other than sport/hobby/practice.
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And the armor-piercing bullets...let me guess, those are for the chainmail-wearing bison, right?
Already covered this. Standard lead core ball ammunition (non-AP) is MORE EFFECTIVE AGAINST LIVING TARGETS, and any rifle round (AP, non-AP, whatever) will go through body armor. The reason steel core/tip jacketed ammo is popular, particularly in 5.56 NATO, is because one of the more popular uses for 5.56 NATO semiautomatic rifles is large scale varmint clearing of land. Those rounds are very lightweight (55-65gr typically, and can be easily deflected by leaves, twigs, etc. The steel core version suffers less deformity and deflection from underbrush, and therefore is a better round to use for that purpose.
The standard "non-AP" (going by what BATF classifies as armor piercing) round from .300 up is already capable of going through thin layers of metal, kevlar, etc. A bolt action .308 firing a total average, cheapo overstock round will go through a lot of stuff.
Man, you know so little about firearms and ammunition it is both laughable and frightening. The frightening part is that politicians share your level of ignorance and they are the ones hellbound and determined to remove rights based on that epic, colossal amount of ignorance.
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