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Those stats require VOLUNTARY reporting of gun ownership by a household member. I don't know anybody that would answer that question if surveyed. My response, and the response of most gun owners I know would be "NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS". So, I don't put much faith in those stats. I look at the record number of gun sales over the past several years, as a better barometer. These stats are certified, and reliable.
Incidentally, if telling someone you own a gun is such a private matter and "NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS," then why did you just tell everyone on this board that you own a gun?
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II live in a nice suburb, with a low crime rate. I don't live in fear. I use guns for sport, but I do also keep them for self defense...
This same thing could be said for many of the right wing's pet causes too. Why do conservatives care if a gay couple want to get married? Why do conservatives care if a woman they never met wants to have an abortion?
Think you can find a bigger brush to paint with ?
I could care less about whom marries whom, and I'm pro choice. Guess I don't fit your narrative.
Again, my original questions stand. Who cares, what others do if it is legal ? Why do you ?
These statistics represent the number of firearm background checks initiated through the NICS. They do not represent the number of firearms sold. Based on varying state laws and purchase scenarios, a one-to one correlation cannot be made between a firearm background check and a firearm sale
You cannot determine gun ownership rates from gun sales anymore than you can determine car ownership rates from car sales or ownership rates of anything based on sales of the same. It could simply be because fewer people are buying more cars and guns, buying or replacing them more frequently, or a whole host of other reasons.
Incidentally, if telling someone you own a gun is such a private matter and "NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS," then why did you just tell everyone on this board that you own a gun?
If I read the 2nd Amendment correctly, it is not only your right, but ones duty to maintain the libertiy of the Constitution, to own arms and be well regulated in their use.
Majority of these NRA fan gun owners that say they NEED to carry their pistol or firearm wherever they need to go, and need to be armed in the house, how many of them actually live and regularly traverse through areas that are high crime? You'd think they live in Brazil, but the vast vast majority of them, live in very stable, low crimenor virtually crime free neighborhoods? I knew one such guy before, typical NRA guy. Has several shotguns in his rural house, because he was paranoid about being broken into. His neighborhood is not known for break-ins or home invasions and is in a semi-rural area. What drives the psychology of such people? And how much of their influence do they have on national gun policy?
First, why are metro gun owners are not included in your scenario? Are they exempted from being questioned for carrying because meto areas are crime ridden and they are under real threat of bodily harm on a daily basis?
I live in a rural area but I dont know any rabid NRA gun supporters that feel they NEED to carry everywhere they go. I know a few who carry about 50% of the time but your average run of the mill gun owner and/or NRA supporter with a carry permit rarely carries unless they are going to a gun event or going to be in the outdoors.
Most all my neighbors have guns, including myself, and about half have carry permits. Our guns are used mainly for critter control, potentially rabid/dangerous animals, predators and nuisances animals or if we have to put down one of ours.
On a few occasions I or my neighbors (women alone) have had intruders on their property or at their door who could have been dangerous. Thankfully, they were not but we were armed in the event we needed to protect ourselves.
One particular neighbor was having troubles with an addicted relative. She asked me to move anything of value I had in her barn just in case they attempted to thieve. I asked if she was safe and she responded I have 56 reason not to be afraid (meaning 56 firearms, she is a retired officer). Its a crap shoot as to how soon the police can respond if you get a phone signal (that's sometimes a crap shoot as well).
Just a few weeks ago there was a shooter in a church here who killed one and injured others.
Personally I'm good knowing members of my community are armed.
Incidentally, if telling someone you own a gun is such a private matter and "NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS," then why did you just tell everyone on this board that you own a gun?
You cannot determine gun ownership rates from gun sales anymore than you can determine car ownership rates from car sales or ownership rates of anything based on sales of the same. It could simply be because fewer people are buying more cars and guns, buying or replacing them more frequently, or a whole host of other reasons.
Without an unconstitutional gun registry, it is all guessing in any chart. Pure Propaganda.
The statistics that can be measured is murder rates and violent crime rates. Compared to those that ban weapons of a certain category.
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This same thing could be said for many of the right wing's pet causes too. Why do conservatives care if a gay couple want to get married? Why do conservatives care if a woman they never met wants to have an abortion?
You're putting people in boxes just because of what they politically identified themselves as 20-60 yrs ago just so they could vote.
My guys are Republican conservatives - my best friend is a gay man - another friend just got married to her girlfriend who became a man - my guys have no beef with that.
As far as abortion - they would rather a woman have an abortion than have a drug addicted baby, someone finds the child in a garbage can, the child is abused or not taken care of ect..
Your political affiliation does not mean that you believe everything that party says lock, stock and barrel. I can't believe that there are those of you who still think like people did back in the 50's.
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