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Old 10-05-2017, 03:51 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by kell490 View Post
Walls will do nothing to stop a motivated person from crossing. All we need is to close the loop hole someone who is born on American soil is automatically an american, and level a fine of 40% annual gross revenue against any company who hires, or sub-contracts a person who has not had their identity verified though E-verify. You won't need a wall most will go back when they can't find work, and their kids will no longer be born American. Those 2 things is all we need to fix the problem we have with illegal immigration. What will that cost American tax payers $0
I'll take my chances with a wall before I would take my chances on enforcing what you are proposing.
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Old 10-05-2017, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It's a 30 foot wall. How long a ladder will you need?
Think about it.
Hmmmmm.......a 30 ft ladder.....

Was that a serious question?
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Old 10-05-2017, 07:04 AM
 
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I'm not on medicare, nor will I ever be. Our insurance covers us through retirement and life span. Yeah, that's the union life, they take care of you. And we all pay into social security, so we are entitled to what we have paid. But I'm talking about the wall. You can pay for it but leave the rest of us out. How do you feel about that a al carte approach for you. Can you afford it.

Sounds good to me! We pro-wall people will pick up the tab for the $25 billion for the wall (with the possible re-imbursement from Mexico) and you anti-wall people can pick up the tab for the $113 billion a year that illegal aliens cost us). Deal???
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Old 10-05-2017, 07:09 AM
 
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A wall won't stop anyone. And I don't want my taxes going towards it. Maybe those who are for the wall should pay for it and leave the rest of us out of it. I'd be ok with that.

You've been in this forum often enough to have seen these two links that I have posted over and over again. How can you still remain in denial when the facts are presented to you. How??????? These types of walls have been very effective and have forced illegal aliens to try and enter thru more difficult and dangerous areas so fewer will try. Those are the areas that we can use more Border Patrol agents.


San Diego Fence Provides Lessons in Border Control : NPR


http://archive.azcentral.com/news/ar...ll0331-ON.html
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Old 10-05-2017, 07:11 AM
 
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Well I'm sure glad the great negotiator got Mexico to pay for it.
Yeah he said it,he didn't mean it but yeah, he said it.
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Old 10-05-2017, 07:13 AM
 
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Sounds good to me! We pro-wall people will pick up the tab for the $25 billion for the wall (with the possible re-imbursement from Mexico) and you anti-wall people can pick up the tab for the $113 billion a year that illegal aliens cost us). Deal???
I see you use the same numbers Kellyanne took off the back of a kool/aid packet.
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Old 10-05-2017, 07:14 AM
 
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The locks on my car cost probably a few bucks to make... not a few 10's of billions. Cost versus benefit.

Big fail! The government has a much larger budget than you do. Cost vs benefit? How about this? $25 billion for improved walls vs $113 billion a year that illegal aliens cost us. What to do, what to do?
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Old 10-05-2017, 07:15 AM
 
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I see you use the same numbers Kellyanne took off the back of a kool/aid packet.

No, here's the source.


https://fairus.org/press-releases/il...n-us-taxpayers
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Old 10-05-2017, 07:18 AM
 
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Because the majority of entries since 2007 are from people who over-stay their visas. The ones who already jumped the wall are already in here, so a new wall isn't going to change that. If you want to tackle the greatest source of illegal immigrants NOW as opposed to prior to 2007, you go after the illegals who have over-stayed their visas, and the employers who hire them.

Who knows more about border protection, Trump or border agents? Even the border agents do not favor a "new and improved" wall.

Please provide a link denoting that the Border Patrol don't want a new and improved wall to make their jobs easier. I'll wait.
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Old 10-05-2017, 07:21 AM
 
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Our country is so in debt. Why in the world we be that stupid to spend this kind of money on a wall that won't prevent anything. How about we spend our money on infrastructure which we desperately need.

Wouldn't deterring illegal aliens from entering our country in the first place decrease our debt? Keep remaining in denial it's fun to watch.
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