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Old 10-04-2017, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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Any item being sold that injures 530 people and kills 59 more would be taken off the market by the most government agencies. Why is the BUMP STOCK continuing to be sold? Where are our responsible leaders that were voted into office to represent citizens?

The NRA should be outraged by the event that took place in Vegas demonstrating their pathetic stand on guns and gun equipment. If the Republicans have all the control in government right now and they do nothing – what does this say about them?

And “yes” this is the right time and the right place to talk about this issue!

The government agencies have taken toys off the market because of injury or death to kids. Furniture has been recalled because of issues, planes grounded after a major failure until the problem is corrected, medicine pulled off the shelves, food items removed and recalled; yet this type of weapon and equipment is sold and continues to be sold. WHY?
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:16 PM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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Because cars kill peoeple and should we ban those and my second amendment rights and blah, blah, blah.
Save your breath. They have their way and they like it no matter how many die.
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:22 PM
 
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Last I checked, a "bump stock" never killed anyone.

And do you think we should ban skyscrapers and commercial jets?
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Any item being sold that injures 530 people and kills 59 more would be taken off the market by the most government agencies. Why is the BUMP STOCK continuing to be sold? Where are our responsible leaders that were voted into office to represent citizens?

The NRA should be outraged by the event that took place in Vegas demonstrating their pathetic stand on guns and gun equipment. If the Republicans have all the control in government right now and they do nothing – what does this say about them?

And “yes” this is the right time and the right place to talk about this issue!

The government agencies have taken toys off the market because of injury or death to kids. Furniture has been recalled because of issues, planes grounded after a major failure until the problem is corrected, medicine pulled off the shelves, food items removed and recalled; yet this type of weapon and equipment is sold and continues to be sold. WHY?

Products are removed from the market when they are defective. Products are much harder to remove from the market, when the product worked as designed, and are legal. It was the miss use of the legal product and the person pulling the trigger is where the problem lies.


What you are wanting is a legal product declared illegal; a more lengthy process.
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:25 PM
 
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Because cars kill peoeple and should we ban those and my second amendment rights and blah, blah, blah.
Save your breath. They have their way and they like it no matter how many die.
I think our forefathers are rolling over in their graves because we have taken advantage of what their intent was by this amendment.
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:32 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Any item being sold that injures 530 people and kills 59 more would be taken off the market by the most government agencies. Why is the BUMP STOCK continuing to be sold? Where are our responsible leaders that were voted into office to represent citizens?

The NRA should be outraged by the event that took place in Vegas demonstrating their pathetic stand on guns and gun equipment. If the Republicans have all the control in government right now and they do nothing – what does this say about them?

And “yes” this is the right time and the right place to talk about this issue!

The government agencies have taken toys off the market because of injury or death to kids. Furniture has been recalled because of issues, planes grounded after a major failure until the problem is corrected, medicine pulled off the shelves, food items removed and recalled; yet this type of weapon and equipment is sold and continues to be sold. WHY?
It says we aren't bending at the knee to fit an anti gun agenda.

I ask the same questions, where's the representatives I elected in NY to overturn the firearm legislation portion of the safe act in NY? They were too busy trying to make friends across the aisle to come to a compromise.

Ok. Attended rallies the works. Nothing.

I am not willing to forfeit my rights or have them altered any more.

I'm done with compromising to fit a liberals idea of a utopia. Want to be like Europe so badly? Move there. This isn't Europe.

Find me a president and congressmen senators and governors to repeal the NFA and Hughes Amendment they've got my vote.
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:49 PM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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I think our forefathers are rolling over in their graves because we have taken advantage of what their intent was by this amendment.
Not only that, but the framers assumed there would be revisions to the constitution. Jefferson wrote:

we should “provide in our constitution for its revision at stated periods.” “[E]ach generation” should have the “solemn opportunity” to update the constitution “every nineteen or twenty years,” thus allowing it to “be handed on, with periodical repairs, from generation to generation, to the end of time.”

Instead we have people with a slavish devotion to a document the writers presumed would need constant updating, not adhered to unchanged for over 200 years. They were smarter than that.
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:57 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Not only that, but the framers assumed there would be revisions to the constitution. Jefferson wrote:

we should “provide in our constitution for its revision at stated periods.” “[E]ach generation” should have the “solemn opportunity” to update the constitution “every nineteen or twenty years,” thus allowing it to “be handed on, with periodical repairs, from generation to generation, to the end of time.”

Instead we have people with a slavish devotion to a document the writers presumed would need constant updating, not adhered to unchanged for over 200 years. They were smarter than that.
Slavish devotion would be for that amendment revised to give up any further 2nd ammendment rights.

When the first fails the 2nd prevails.

You may be okay with trading liberty for comfort, myself and many more Americans are not.

Remember. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin.

That's what revising the 2nd leads to. So beings theres a 19 or 20 year window for repair. I say time to scrap the NFA.
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:09 AM
 
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Oh boy now I've heard it all. So now firearms are equivalent to products that are removed from the marketplace because they're faulty? Am I to understand it that you're telling me Stephen Paddock went on a rampage because his firearms were faulty? Just when I thought hoplophobes couldn't get any kookier, you prove me wrong. I'm not a Republican, but thank God level-headed Republicans are in control of Congress at a time like this. If hoplophobic Democrats were in control, they'd ram through some knee-jerk reactionary legislation that would cost all of us at least some if not all of our liberty forever.
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:11 AM
 
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I think our forefathers are rolling over in their graves because we have taken advantage of what their intent was by this amendment.
The Second Amendment doesn't grant us the right to bear arms any more than the First grants us freedom of the press. It expressly prohibits the federal government from infringing on it, as our rights are God-given.
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