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Old 10-06-2017, 12:14 PM
 
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It really is astounding that women's reproductive health is a moral issue in 2017.
What is astounding to me is that people think others should pay for their lifestyle medications. This includes Viagra and anything else like that. I don't care how much sex you have, or don't have, but you should pay for it out of your pocket.
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Old 10-06-2017, 12:14 PM
 
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I simply object to the characterization in this thread that birth control is a lifestyle luxury and not a pharmaceutical that should be covered as any other medicine.

The men who believe that are not thinking clearly.
For most it is a lifestyle choice. Only for some is it a medical necessity.

Drugs are only partially covered by insurance. Contraceptives are 100% covered as well as any related surgery..that is $0 out of pocket.
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Old 10-06-2017, 12:16 PM
 
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I am absolutely mindblown by the attitudes here that seem to believe that married people do not have sex or use or need birth control.

Maybe other people have better marriages than yours?

I am not addressing who needs or wants birth control. I am only proposing that it be paid for in full by the person or persons who are utilizing it. So if you are single, you should pay for it yourself. If you are a couple, you should pay for it as a couple. If you have teenagers that you want to provide it to, you should pay for it as parents.


Birth control is a wonderful tool. But it should be paid for in full by anyone who needs it and uses it.


The mindset that "I will make others pay for my needs" is singularly dragging our country to Hell. Pregnancy is an option. Sex is an option. Not wanting kids is an option. If you want options, then great. Pay for them yourself. There is no need to make others pay for your lifestyle choices.
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Old 10-06-2017, 12:18 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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mandate:

Birth control: Major blow to Obamacare mandate - CNN

Trump apparently has a pen and a phone too.
LOL! Only a Left-wing organization like CNN (and the other Left-wing media) would call it a "major blow." Actually, it is a major victory for the First Amendment.

Leftists are always trying to diminish our rights, if not take them away altogether. But the Federal Government didn't give us those rights. We are not a Kingdom, nor are we a democracy (mob rule).

We don't give up our rights for the convenience of the Federal Government, which has no authority to take them away.
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Old 10-06-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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LOL! Only a Left-wing organization like CNN (and the other Left-wing media) would call it a "major blow." Actually, it is a major victory for the First Amendment.

Leftists are always trying to diminish our rights, if not take them away altogether. But the Federal Government didn't give us those rights. We are not a Kingdom, nor are we a democracy (mob rule).

We don't give up our rights for the convenience of the Federal Government, which has no authority to take them away.
Just more proof that Trump is out to hurt Americans and America
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Old 10-06-2017, 12:21 PM
 
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Birth control: Major blow to Obamacare mandate - CNN

Trump apparently has a pen and a phone too.
Great news! More unwanted children coming into the world, that the taxpayers get to eventually foot the bill for.

THANKS TRUMP
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Old 10-06-2017, 12:21 PM
 
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LMAO at "sex is an option."

It is a biological imperative. It is essential for a bonded marriage. It is not just for rich people who can afford it. Wow.
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Old 10-06-2017, 12:22 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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They can all just encourage the women to get abortions like GOP congressmen do.
One Congressman ...and virtually every Democrat! Were you attempting to absolve Democrats from guilt? Pretty disingenuous of you.

Everyone knows the Democrat Party is the Abortion Party.
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Old 10-06-2017, 12:23 PM
 
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What is astounding to me is that people think others should pay for their lifestyle medications. This includes Viagra and anything else like that. I don't care how much sex you have, or don't have, but you should pay for it out of your pocket.
Paying for birth control is waaaayyyyy cheaper than paying for labor and delivery, or a C-section, or the medical costs associated with raising a child.

Do you consider childbirth a lifestyle event that shouldn't be covered by insurance?
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Old 10-06-2017, 12:25 PM
 
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For most it is a lifestyle choice. Only for some is it a medical necessity.

Drugs are only partially covered by insurance. Contraceptives are 100% covered as well as any related surgery..that is $0 out of pocket.
That's because it's well-recognized that paying for birth control results in huge savings down the road.
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