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To my dismay, people had no problem electing Bush for a second term..... Just saying. John Kerry wasn't exactly igniting people to go the polls either, because he too look like a war monger.
Kerry was against the war in 2004, that election was my first time voting. Kerry advocated essentially a "cut and run" that we abandon the Iraq war without a fight; that is why he lost the election. Most Americans supported the Iraq war until 2007 when it became clear that the war was being mishandled, before that the war had overwhelming support with the American people.
Yeah, anyone with a brain can see the dems went too far left. I mean that with no disrespect. I've been beating the drum that they need to get back to the center more and focus on core things like jobs, economy, improving healthcare and border security. Stuff that most day to day people can meet in the middle on.
^Yes! All of the crap the democrats are worried about right now, will not help me pay the mortgage and put food on my table.
Sadly, that huge budget plan that Trump signed off on for the military, is putting food on my table. I work of a communications/defense contractor, and we just got a big contract with the government and with other subcontractors.
Kerry was against the war in 2004, that election was my first time voting. Kerry advocated essentially a "cut and run" that we abandon the Iraq war; that is why he lost the election. Most Americans supported the Iraq war until 2007 when it became clear that the war was being mishandled, before that the war had overwhelming support with the American people.
Kerry almost won! Very hard, even with an unpopular war, to beat a wartime incumbent! (Ask George McGovern!). Kerry lost by only two points. Much of the time, candidates lose to incumbents by much more than that, especially wartime....!
Karl Rove also went into Black churches, in such swing spots as Ohio, and brought the message of Bush being "a man of God," while characterizing Kerry the exact opposite! Bush got a two percent increase in the Black vote. I don't even know if Eisenhower ever got a two percent black uptick for a GOP incumbent in '56! Folk then saw New Orleans flood, and realized, "Oops, we voted for the wrong one!"
Yeah, anyone with a brain can see the dems went too far left. I mean that with no disrespect. I've been beating the drum that they need to get back to the center more and focus on core things like jobs, economy, improving healthcare and border security. Stuff that most day to day people can meet in the middle on.
DNC can't see the middle from the leftmost edge they are on.
Bill Clinton won : "It's the economy, stupid".
HRC lost: "IT's the Transgenders, stupid" was her M.O.
Kerry was against the war in 2004, that election was my first time voting. Kerry advocated essentially a "cut and run" that we abandon the Iraq war without a fight; that is why he lost the election. Most Americans supported the Iraq war until 2007 when it became clear that the war was being mishandled, before that the war had overwhelming support with the American people.
Evangelicals have never been more transparent than after electing Trump. They continuously attacked Obama and his family but madly support Trump with his record of cheating, three families, multiple marriages, grabbing women without their permission, calling STDs his personal Vietnam, etc. All because of their own dislike of LGBT. But Trump also promised LGBT that he would do them no harm. That has not been the case. He has made LGBT a continual target. LGBT vote and so do their families and friends. So while he already had the evangelicals, he has lost the LGBT community. And LGBT tend to be affluent as are the tech and other companies that support them.
I just saw an evangelical Republican on Morning Joe who was concerned about what Trump has done to the entire evangelical movement - as IN - making them all look like hypocrites.
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Originally Posted by bawac34618
This is what it's all about. The evangelicals would rather the country be destroyed in a nuclear holocaust than continue to be a place where LGBT people are treated like humans.
Bingo. I think you are correct.
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Originally Posted by BobNJ1960
LGBT didn't get their way last November. Shazam!
You have shown us how happy evangelicals are that LGBT may now be discriminated against. Something we have seen all along - but it is nice for you to confirm it for us.
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Originally Posted by warhorse78
I could see this. They became too far to the left, that it alienated alot of people.
Too far left? Ya'll currently have Nazi's saluting in your president's name.
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You have shown us how happy evangelicals are that LGBT may now be discriminated against. Something we have seen all along - but it is nice for you to confirm it for us.
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Wrong. now they simply get the same treatment all citizens get w/o special treatment. I am happy that is the case.
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