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Old 10-09-2017, 08:21 AM
 
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Every country interferes with everyone's election. It is called politics.
It does no good to speak in absolute terms, unless you can prove it.


And it is not called politics, it is called crime.
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Old 10-09-2017, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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Every country interferes with everyone's election. It is called politics.
Is this the result of expert propaganda? You're played like a Strativarius, and when that's pointed out to you, you're OK with it.

Man, the Russians are good at this stuff. Bravo, Russia... you got us. You got us bad.
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Old 10-09-2017, 08:25 AM
 
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Our State Dept spent $350 million in trying to influence the 2015 election in Israel. After they got outed by Israel Congress gave them a slap on the wrist and said "don't do it again".

We really shouldn't be all that outraged because we do just as much meddling in other countries' elections.
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Old 10-09-2017, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Every country interferes with everyone's election. It is called politics.
So obvious to sane people. Libs? Not so much.
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Old 10-09-2017, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Is this the result of expert propaganda? You're played like a Strativarius, and when that's pointed out to you, you're OK with it.

Man, the Russians are good at this stuff. Bravo, Russia... you got us. You got us bad.
Your country rapes, kills, and steals from anyone and everyone it can all before breakfast....just like the rest of the world.

It's a fact. Accept it. You'll sleep better.
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Old 10-09-2017, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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You obvious have no understanding of politics.

Sorry dear one. Not so fast. I was talking to an ex Army friend that had high security clearance. What he told me in a nut shell is that what Russia did we've done as well. Chilling but true. Everyone does it, but it's wrong only if it's done to us. America is a world leader because of some of the under handed things our politicians have done. We are not so innocent, just better at it.
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Old 10-09-2017, 10:08 AM
 
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Sorry dear one. Not so fast. I was talking to an ex Army friend that had high security clearance. What he told me in a nut shell is that what Russia did we've done as well. Chilling but true. Everyone does it, but it's wrong only if it's done to us. America is a world leader because of some of the under handed things our politicians have done. We are not so innocent, just better at it.
It must be true if your ex-army friend said so!!!

Whataboutism strikes again.
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Old 10-09-2017, 10:11 AM
 
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You obvious have no understanding of politics.
Obama sent people to Israel to interfere with their election. If the leader of a foreign country chooses one candidate of another, that is interference.
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:54 AM
 
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Every country interferes with everyone's election. It is called politics.
nope fake made up bs.

When was the last time The USA interfered in IRE's election/ When was the last time brazil tried to subvert France's election...

in short you are wrong, you premise is just nonsense. Russia has gone to great extremes to subvert elections in the west. the same is NOT true of the west. Brits, french portuguese are not expending large amounts of time and money to swing russia's elections.
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Every country interferes with everyone's election. It is called politics.
How did the U.S. interfere in the Canadian election in 2015?
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