Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-09-2017, 04:01 PM
 
20,757 posts, read 8,576,536 times
Reputation: 14393

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by DUNNDFRNT View Post
the global economy isnt going anywhere. We need access to emerging markets and the rest of the world to ours, too much money to be made.
Trump is for free trade but he wants deals to benefit us and not everyone else in the world. America first!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-09-2017, 04:03 PM
 
Location: 89434
6,658 posts, read 4,746,610 times
Reputation: 4838
Quote:
Originally Posted by ohioaninsc View Post

If he's not impeached or gone w/in the next year, this country is doomed.
Because your liberal fantasy world has been shattered after Hillary lost the election?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-09-2017, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Florida
23,795 posts, read 13,259,424 times
Reputation: 19952
Quote:
Originally Posted by bawac34618 View Post
And I don't understand how or why Trump remains so popular. I am pretty sure it's due to the fact that people are angry about political correctness and left-wing movements like #BLM, LGBT rights, environmentalists, secular humanists, etc. They like Trump just because he angers liberals so much. It doesn't matter how competent he is. Trump spites the people they hate and that's good enough for them.

The thing is, while I don't agree I can understand the mindset. What I don't understand is how/why it's worth destroying the country or possibly even the planet to make that point.
He doesn't remain 'so popular.' That is simply not true. He is losing people in the rural areas as well, so I don't know who is hard-core cult is.

Frankly, I find threads like this just depressing. I lived in NYC and worked in media for years. Nobody there liked or respected Trump or even took him seriously. He was a joke. He was Howard Stern's buddy. He was Page 6 fodder. The adventures of Ivana and Marla and Donny. It was not 'elitism' either--it was Trump acting like the ass he is. He was the guy with the diamond pinkie ring calling women sweetheart and hitting on everyone and bragging about it on Howard Stern's radio show.

As far as his business, he was intent on destroying old NYC neighborhoods with all kinds of character and replacing them with giant high rises that would block entire neighborhoods from sun. He really did not care. He stiffed workers. He stiffed investors and banks. He did not care at all about anyone other than himself.

People despised what he was doing to the city. The Trump Tower was appalling and gaudy--tasteless. He had nasty feuds with everyone, just like he does now. Then the Atlantic City fiasco. Tried to get into Vegas and he was blocked there. This is a guy that nobody liked or wanted around. Watch the movie 'Trumped' and see how he treated the people of Scotland. It is just so disgusting.

The he bought in Palm Beach and did the same thing all over again. Fought with everyone. Sued the city--just a horrible person to have live in your town. Then the Apprentice and his birther phase--ugly. He is hellbent on destroying anything Obama did out absolute vengeful spite and nothing more.

He has not changed one bit. He is the same jerk he always was. He fights with everyone. He's mean and nasty and immature. Actually he's even worse now. Watching his rallies and those people screaming and yelling was horrible. They were seeing someone who does not even exist. A performer, a clown, a snake oil salesman, a deadbeat. It's like they have some bizarre glasses on that see Oz--but it's just a little man behind the curtain.

Now more people can see the real guy rather than the performer. And it is depressing that he still has enough power to destroy our country. He is not going to change, he is not going to get any smarter. He is a 'moron' just as Tillerson said. And if there is not some type of intervention, he will ruin this country and it will take years to get it back on track. And it is really depressing that some may allow him to do this.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-09-2017, 04:10 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
12,716 posts, read 7,811,145 times
Reputation: 11338
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enigma777 View Post
He doesn't remain 'so popular.' That is simply not true. He is losing people in the rural areas as well, so I don't know who is hard-core cult is.
His cult is primarily the Christian Right. Other far-right ideologies also make put his base but the core of it is the evangelicals.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-09-2017, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Florida
23,795 posts, read 13,259,424 times
Reputation: 19952
Quote:
Originally Posted by bawac34618 View Post
His cult is primarily the Christian Right. Other far-right ideologies also make put his base but the core of it is the evangelicals.
That is absolutely amazing. He is a man with no morals at all. None. He knows nothing about religion--how can they respect him?

"...Just days before his presidential inauguration, Trump met with two Christian leaders at his office in Trump Tower. Invited to pray with the incoming president were the Rev. Patrick O’Connor, senior pastor at the First Presbyterian Church in Jamaica, of Queens, New York ― where the president was confirmed as a child ― and the Rev. Scott Black Johnston, senior pastor of Manhattan’s Fifth Avenue Presbyterian Church...

the pastors told CNN, Trump boasted: “I did very, very well with evangelicals in the polls.”

...O’Connor and Johnston reminded Trump that neither of them is an evangelical. To which the president-elect reportedly asked: “Well, what are you then?”

The pastors are both mainline Protestants ― like Trump, who describes himself as a Presbyterian. O’Connor and Johnston explained this to the president-elect, who nodded and asked them: “But you’re all Christians?”

“Yes,” they said. “We’re all Christians.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1CE162

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b02478cb9b2600
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-09-2017, 04:23 PM
 
8,383 posts, read 4,366,655 times
Reputation: 11889
I think a malignant anarchy has taken hold of our country that has few beliefs other than to disrupt and falsify any amount of decorum and morality.

If they can turn something sacred into a joke or make the worst come out in people or sway public opinion from a socially accepted path into something darker, they do.

They are astute and capable of using media and technology to sway outcomes all while assuring those they corrupt that what they are doing is for the benefit of all.

Now the leader of our country is the epitome of vulgarity and immaturity and his followers follow along lemming like helping to spread hate and discord.

Truth and fact are dismissed and ridiculed.

I am not sure where this is all leading but unless a there is a reckoning soon, the days of a 'United States' and freedom may come to an end.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-09-2017, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
11,904 posts, read 5,586,521 times
Reputation: 12963
Quote:
Originally Posted by PilgrimsProgress View Post
Trump is for free trade but he wants deals to benefit us and not everyone else in the world. America first!
When will Trump clothing be made here?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-09-2017, 04:27 PM
 
8,502 posts, read 3,340,526 times
Reputation: 7030
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enigma777 View Post
He doesn't remain 'so popular.' That is simply not true. He is losing people in the rural areas as well, so I don't know who is hard-core cult is.

Frankly, I find threads like this just depressing. I lived in NYC and worked in media for years. Nobody there liked or respected Trump or even took him seriously. He was a joke. He was Howard Stern's buddy. He was Page 6 fodder. The adventures of Ivana and Marla and Donny. It was not 'elitism' either--it was Trump acting like the ass he is. He was the guy with the diamond pinkie ring calling women sweetheart and hitting on everyone and bragging about it on Howard Stern's radio show.

As far as his business, he was intent on destroying old NYC neighborhoods with all kinds of character and replacing them with giant high rises that would block entire neighborhoods from sun. He really did not care. He stiffed workers. He stiffed investors and banks. He did not care at all about anyone other than himself.

People despised what he was doing to the city. The Trump Tower was appalling and gaudy--tasteless. He had nasty feuds with everyone, just like he does now. Then the Atlantic City fiasco. Tried to get into Vegas and he was blocked there. This is a guy that nobody liked or wanted around. Watch the movie 'Trumped' and see how he treated the people of Scotland. It is just so disgusting.

The he bought in Palm Beach and did the same thing all over again. Fought with everyone. Sued the city--just a horrible person to have live in your town. Then the Apprentice and his birther phase--ugly. He is hellbent on destroying anything Obama did out absolute vengeful spite and nothing more.

He has not changed one bit. He is the same jerk he always was. He fights with everyone. He's mean and nasty and immature. Actually he's even worse now. Watching his rallies and those people screaming and yelling was horrible. They were seeing someone who does not even exist. A performer, a clown, a snake oil salesman, a deadbeat. It's like they have some bizarre glasses on that see Oz--but it's just a little man behind the curtain.

Now more people can see the real guy rather than the performer. And it is depressing that he still has enough power to destroy our country. He is not going to change, he is not going to get any smarter. He is a 'moron' just as Tillerson said. And if there is not some type of intervention, he will ruin this country and it will take years to get it back on track. And it is really depressing that some may allow him to do this.

Excellent post.

Support the guy if you must in the perhaps futile hope that he or Republicans will implement this or that policy.

But to pretend that this man is anything other than a "moron" is pitiful. Or a charlatan. Or a potential danger.

He IS the guy who would show up at New York charity events to pop on stage for the publicity photos - for causes for which he'd never contributed a DIME.

Like you say, Engima777 - it's the New Yorkers who really know the stories on this guy.

THIS is our "honored" President of the United States.

Giggling ... as I've HEARD conservative right-wing Christians do ... amused at his shenanigans, hoping he'll also destroy the Republican Party is downright SAD. Morality? Out the door. Stability? What's that?

Vote, support him if you must. But don't be so STUPID about it.

My 87-yo stepmother never voted for a Democrat in her life. And certainly not for Obama. But as a former New Yorker now living in Florida she made sure she got to the polls to cast that vote for Clinton or - rather - against Trump. She knew better.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-09-2017, 04:29 PM
 
7,982 posts, read 4,286,858 times
Reputation: 6744
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enigma777 View Post
...
He has not changed one bit. He is the same jerk he always was. He fights with everyone. He's mean and nasty and immature. Actually he's even worse now. Watching his rallies and those people screaming and yelling was horrible. They were seeing someone who does not even exist. A performer, a clown, a snake oil salesman, a deadbeat. It's like they have some bizarre glasses on that see Oz--but it's just a little man behind the curtain.

Now more people can see the real guy rather than the performer. And it is depressing that he still has enough power to destroy our country. He is not going to change, he is not going to get any smarter. He is a 'moron' just as Tillerson said. And if there is not some type of intervention, he will ruin this country and it will take years to get it back on track. And it is really depressing that some may allow him to do this.

Holy crap, what an apt analogy.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-09-2017, 04:49 PM
 
Location: moved
13,654 posts, read 9,711,429 times
Reputation: 23480
Quote:
Originally Posted by dman72 View Post
As for the GOP, the main issue is that they are no longer just the "conservative" option, they have moved too far right and have clearly sold themselves out.
It's not that they've moved too far to the right, but that they've become the nationalist-populist party. Conservatives per se have become tarred as "elites" (as, paradoxically, so have liberals).

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnywhereElse View Post
As always, it could be worse, the morally, mentally and physically incompetent Hillary Clinton could be POTUS and moving us even further into globalism where we would lose everything that we and our ancestors have worked for.
Pray tell: why is "globalism" (whatever that means) such a scourge?

Quote:
Originally Posted by PilgrimsProgress View Post
Republicans were fed up with establishment elites in the Rep party.
Throughout history, government by “establishment elites” = sane government. The alternative is a revolution. Is that what we want?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:35 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top