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Old 10-11-2017, 01:23 AM
 
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I don't understand why you have to be so dishonest. Not wanting a wasteful wall doesn't equate to open borders or loving illegal immigrants. That's just dishonesty in order to support a limp argument.
Being honest. Pelosi and Chuckles submitted no counter offer. They like status quo. America does not like status quo. That's part of the reason HRC lost-US voted against status quo.
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Pixley
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What Russian problems?
"A disproportionate of our investments come from Russia" or " I have no investments in Russia" (notice, in and not with Russians). Which one is correct?
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:38 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Liberal democrats "Screw the safety of our fellow citizens. We need to fill the party with new voters"

Trump says Democrats 'don't care' about US border security - ABC News
If conservatives had any concern for the safety of their fellow citizens, they'd do something about the excessive, deadly gun proliferation in this country; not to mention stop trying to decimated their access to health insurance. Those are far greater risks.

/Mic drop
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:48 AM
 
Location: USA
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What about if the economy in the US gets better? That would be good, no? But then the illegal problem, if left unchecked, would get worse, not better. I don’t know about you, but no matter how good our economy is, I am always hoping it gets better.

But imagine how much we would save if we got rid of illegals. The cost of a wall would be nothing by comparison. No more unpaid emergency room visits. No more educating their children at $15,000 per child , every year. We could even use the extra money to pay for those crumbling bridges and deteriorating highways you were talking about.
OK let's get rid of illegal immigrants, then: a national ID system and e-verify for employees. It'll be impossible to work anything other than secretive cash jobs without being legal. It'll cost significantly less than a wall and stop the 40% of illegal immigrants who don't come over the southern border.
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Democrats used to want to close our border. The switch.. the illegals are voting for democrats and Americans are voting for Trump.

The anti-American crowd vote democrat. The haters of this nation vote for globalism, opened borders, want sanctuary cities, more welfare, killing jobs, shipping jobs out of the country.Their goal is destroying our history, our founding fathers and our Constitution and take away our right to protect ourselves with a fire arm.

Trump is for more jobs for Americans, healthcare that people can actually afford, the right to bear arms to protect oneself, the right to a job before hiring an illegal, border protection, protecting our rights under the Constitution, and improving infrastructure, charter schools for a better education, a stronger military to defend this country from attack by a nuclear weapon, lowing taxes for the working people and small business which will stimulate the economy and create more jobs .

They want to destroy our patriotism and love of country because they want to kill this sovereign nation and make it as no identity other than another global part of a one world governing body. Very plain to see today. The globalists want to destroy our independence because we are too advanced compared to the third world countries. We need to be taken down to fit their plan of equality globally.

Our nation was built on the sweat of those who came before us. The generations past paid for a better America , the industrial age brought us out of a primitive time where our ancestors toiled for a better life and we should honor those who worked for a better life . We are a young nation but the hard work and the mass amount of sacrifice of past generations , and our soldiers who fought for our freedoms who gave their lives to keep this country free. I will stand with them always to keep this nation free from invaders and those who want to destroy this great nation.

As someone said , they want to take down the statue of Columbus . The past generations of Italians put their nickels , dimes and quarters to built that statue and we should let the haters destroy it? No , I will not stand with the haters who want to destroy our history, our country and the people within . I have much faith in Americans who love this country. And there are many who love this country.

Drain the Swamp Mr. President.
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Old 10-11-2017, 07:06 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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OK let's get rid of illegal immigrants, then: a national ID system and e-verify for employees. It'll be impossible to work anything other than secretive cash jobs without being legal. It'll cost significantly less than a wall and stop the 40% of illegal immigrants who don't come over the southern border.
I think that would be great. Can’t we do all of the above?
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Old 10-11-2017, 07:09 AM
 
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I wonder how many illegals Trump has employed over the years in his hotels.

Trust me, no one in power cares that much about the border. It's just silly talk that riles up a portion of his base.
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Old 10-11-2017, 07:21 AM
 
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Democrats used to want to close our border. The switch.. the illegals are voting for democrats and Americans are voting for Trump.

The anti-American crowd vote democrat. The haters of this nation vote for globalism, opened borders, want sanctuary cities, more welfare, killing jobs, shipping jobs out of the country.Their goal is destroying our history, our founding fathers and our Constitution and take away our right to protect ourselves with a fire arm.

Trump is for more jobs for Americans, healthcare that people can actually afford, the right to bear arms to protect oneself, the right to a job before hiring an illegal, border protection, protecting our rights under the Constitution, and improving infrastructure, charter schools for a better education, a stronger military to defend this country from attack by a nuclear weapon, lowing taxes for the working people and small business which will stimulate the economy and create more jobs .

They want to destroy our patriotism and love of country because they want to kill this sovereign nation and make it as no identity other than another global part of a one world governing body. Very plain to see today. The globalists want to destroy our independence because we are too advanced compared to the third world countries. We need to be taken down to fit their plan of equality globally.

Our nation was built on the sweat of those who came before us. The generations past paid for a better America , the industrial age brought us out of a primitive time where our ancestors toiled for a better life and we should honor those who worked for a better life . We are a young nation but the hard work and the mass amount of sacrifice of past generations , and our soldiers who fought for our freedoms who gave their lives to keep this country free. I will stand with them always to keep this nation free from invaders and those who want to destroy this great nation.

As someone said , they want to take down the statue of Columbus . The past generations of Italians put their nickels , dimes and quarters to built that statue and we should let the haters destroy it? No , I will not stand with the haters who want to destroy our history, our country and the people within . I have much faith in Americans who love this country. And there are many who love this country.

Drain the Swamp Mr. President.
Agree and we must return to the US Constitution as our bas document. There is just too many like Obama and HRC wants to write the rules as they go and to fit their power grab.
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Old 10-11-2017, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The Republicans are just as guilty as the Democrats: the Republicans want the cheap illegal immigrant labor that undercuts wages.
No wall is high enough. No patrol deep enough. So long as employers continue to employ undocumented people, they will come.

The powerful US Chamber of Commerce lobby works at state, county and federal levels to prevent e-Verify from becoming a state or federal law.

How come Texas has not made eVerify a state law? How come Florida, with long time Republican legislators has sanctuary counties?

A wall is symbolic and creates the perception, government is doing something without doing anything to put a dent into what attracts undocumented people.

The vast majority of borderland is privately- owned and will need to be acquired by Eminent Domain. Land owners will reject and appeal financial offers. The courts will eventually need to condemn to acquire.

Miles of gaps in the Bush era wall exists to accommodate politically connected land owners, a University, country clubs, ranches, HOAs and so on.
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Old 10-11-2017, 07:29 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Trump says Democrats 'don't care' about US border security
this is supposed to be news?

If they had their way we would have 2 billion new third world immigrants in the country tomorrow
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