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View Poll Results: What do conservatives want from their opposition
"Political Re-education" 9 37.50%
Lose their voting rights permanently 4 16.67%
Be imprisoned 2 8.33%
Be deported to a country of the conservatives' choosing 9 37.50%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-11-2017, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Yeah, I know. But I was just being honest. What about schooling fees for families that have more than ONE child? Unfortunately, most Americans want as much free stuff from the government. And those with children actually think that they are doing society (and me) some big favour by having kids. And also parent mistakenly thinking that all that's needed to raise a child properly is having them in a school. Meanwhile, all I see around me are poorly raised children.

And it is a huge and unfair burden for society to have to pick up the tab for dealing with special needs children... as the cost of dealing with them is hugely expensive. One day, when we find out the cause of what makes kids dyslexic, autistic or having ADHD, we need to sue the pants off of those companies responsible and make them pay for schooling for these broken children.
You do realize that if each couple doesn't have two children, that the population will start to erode, and more importantly, there will be more seniors collecting social security and Medicare, than working age people paying in.

There has to be some incentive to have children, otherwise most people wouldn't and we would go extinct in a few generations

 
Old 10-11-2017, 07:52 AM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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A loyal opposition is good for the nation and the two party system has served us well through most of our history. Traditionaly both parties were patriotic and held traditional social values based in judeo-Christian traditions. Were the parties differed was in economic policy, state vs federal power and taxation. Arguments about taxes, the place of unions in our economy and the level of government involvement with the economy were the highlight of the debate. Neither party advocated for socialism, communism, restrictions on free speech, or for extreme changes in our social values. Up until the turn of the century this is the way our two party system worked and it worked well.

Things have changed during this new century. Radicals have seized control of the Democratic Party. These radicals demand socialism, enforcement of political correctness through restrictions on free speech, elimination of the second amendment, the forcing of acceptance of gays, trannies and other sexual deviancy upon our society, the demonization of white America, open borders and all this being done in part through left wing violence and never ending protests.
Define socialism? Here, I'll help you.

Socialism is government ownership (not just 'control', outright ownership) of key industries. Even Western Europe abandoned that one. Right now, it's Social Democracy - higher taxes on higher income and/or net-worth individuals in order to provide key services needed to keep society at modern levels of civilization.

Why the distaste toward LGBTs? How is "sexual deviancy" hurting you? The same for any other kind of "weirdness", mental illnesses clearly not signaling menacing or degradation of other people. Restrictions on Free Speech? Ask a German where that lead to. They still have some free speech guarantees, even if not as extensive as the USA. It's not like Germany's turned into North Korea, or even Russia on account of it.
Demonize White America? No, just those who presume that non-whites deserve second-class respect at best. Try again on that count. Open borders? Don't we already have a guest-worker program for farm laborers? From what I understand, six months in the US, then six months back to their homeland.

I see someone who simply starts with the assumption "Conservatives and Tradition is correct about everything because it's tradition. Liberals and those questioning tradition are incorrect about everything because it goes against tradition."
 
Old 10-11-2017, 08:23 AM
 
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Under human decency and more importantly, the Civil Rights Act
Where does the civil rights act outlaw bigotry?
 
Old 10-11-2017, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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There has to be some incentive to have children, otherwise most people wouldn't and we would go extinct in a few generations
But more humans will evolve from apes, so why worry?
 
Old 10-11-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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But more humans will evolve from apes, so why worry?
Evolution took millions of years, it's not overnight
 
Old 10-11-2017, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Evolution took millions of years, it's not overnight
Nobody said it was overnight.
 
Old 10-11-2017, 09:00 AM
 
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Accountability.

Equal expectations for everyone.

More producers, fewer professional victims.
 
Old 10-11-2017, 09:07 AM
 
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I really wonder, so have created a poll...


Give me a break.


Most conservatives, unlike liberals, do not feel compelled to force others to adopt their ideology. Many conservatives have a libertarian vein, which supports individual rights, rather than compulsory allegiance to political views. Modern liberals, on the other hand, have become more fascist and intolerant in nature, considering opposing views to not be simply a difference of opinion, but simply evil. Depersonalization of "opponants" is a core tenant to propaganda, which tends to appeal to those of limited intellect.
 
Old 10-11-2017, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Nobody said it was overnight.
Then why bring it up? If our birth rate went to 0.2, or only 2 couples out of 5 having 1 child each, it would reduce the amount of births per year from 3.9 million to 800,000, while if our death rate stayed at the current 3.1 million, we would lose 2.3 million people every year, and would probably be on the verge of extinction in about 150 years
 
Old 10-11-2017, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Give me a break.


Most conservatives, unlike liberals, do not feel compelled to force others to adopt their ideology. Many conservatives have a libertarian vein, which supports individual rights, rather than compulsory allegiance to political views. Modern liberals, on the other hand, have become more fascist and intolerant in nature, considering opposing views to not be simply a difference of opinion, but simply evil. Depersonalization of "opponants" is a core tenant to propaganda, which tends to appeal to those of limited intellect.
Both sides are guilty, so spare me. There are posters here who are ready to go to armed battle to "defeat liberals"
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