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Old 10-12-2017, 06:12 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
Trump's tame administrator is busy gutting Net Neutrality as well.
"Net Neutrality" was a deceptive title applied to the FCC's reclassification of the Internet under an outdated monopoly era statute know as "Title II" of the Communications Act in which the FCC has authority to control. This kind of deceptive title is a ploy that the Democrats always use when they want to apply more control over something. It sounds innocuous, but it wasn't.

The Internet was originally classified as a "Title I" service, or "information service." Reclassifying it as a "telecommunications service" seems a step backward.

Repealing "Net Neutrality" is the right thing to do to keep the Internet free of government regulation.

 
Old 10-12-2017, 06:19 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by EvilEyeFleegle View Post
ROTFLMAO!

Well, you're consistent--gotta give ya that. I guess you feel if you keeps posting this obvious falsehood--at some point people we believe it?

You are wrong...Fascism is an extreme right wing ideology.


Socialism is a left wing ideology..far left but not as far as Communism.


Trump comes as close as we have had in America to a Fascist--in fairness, that's not really very far...and Trump is no Fascist..not really. But he comes closer..than any of his predecessors..even FDR..had more respect for the institutions of Govt.
I think you need to do some homework. You couldn't be further off the mark. Mussolini was an extreme Leftist. Trump is no Mussolini, and he certainly isn't a Leftist.

The problem here is that those applying these labels do not know history, and in fact I doubt they even know what a fascist is.
 
Old 10-12-2017, 06:21 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Ok, so we are using Philosophy of Logic 101, I assume?

Your premise: Fasists = Leftists (F=L) and Fascists = Socialism (F=S) and therefore,

Trump is not Socialist or Leftist, so (T cannot = S+L)

First, I disagree with that premise. Fascism=Socialism+Capitalism (F=S+C)

"Where socialism nationalized property explicitly, fascism did so implicitly, by requiring owners to use their property in the “national interest”—that is, as the autocratic authority conceived it. Where socialism abolished all market relations outright, fascism left the appearance of market relations while planning all economic activities. Where socialism abolished money and prices, fascism controlled the monetary system and set all prices and wages politically. In doing all this, fascism denatured the marketplace. Entrepreneurship was abolished. State ministries, rather than consumers, determined what was produced and under what conditions..."

Nazis were Fascists and Nationalists (Nz=F+N)

Nazis took socialism, removed the 'socialist' part and made it totalitarian capitalism.

"...However, the assumption that because the word “socialist” appeared in the party’s name and socialist words and ideas popped up in the writings and speeches of top Nazis then the Nazis must have been actual socialists is naive and ahistorical. What the evidence shows, on the contrary, is that Nazi Party leaders paid mere lip service to socialist ideals on the way to achieving their one true goal: raw, totalitarian power.

The National Socialists completely ignored socialism’s primary aim (replacing the existing class-based society with an egalitarian one in which workers owned the means of production) and substituted their own topsy-turvy agenda,“replacing class with race, and the dictatorship of the proletariat with the dictatorship of the leader”...Not long after acquiring the reins of power, the Nazis banned the Social Democratic Party and sent its leaders and other leftists identified as threats to the National Socialist program to concentration camps..."

So Nazis = Fascist/Nationalist/Totalitarian Dictatorship controlling the economy minus the Socialism.

Therefore, Fascism=(Capitalism - Socialism) + Nationalism (F=C-S+N)

Trump is a Nationalist and Capitalist (T=(N+C)=F)

Therefore Trump can mostly certainly = a Fascist. (Threatening to take away broadcasting licenses of private corporations certainly seems to fit the totalitarian Nazi model.)
I have no idea what your trying to prove with this diatribe, which is pure garbage.

Perhaps this will help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytu5Kz6Y0CQ&t=422s
 
Old 10-12-2017, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking tRump: still an ignoramus on the US nuclear arsenal and unable to learn from the experts

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And he serves up steaming Whoppers of lies to idiots daily. Do you see Trump calling that out in his supposed bid for media accuracy and fairness?

Trump and his mindless minions just wants to shut up anyone who criticized him. **** him (and them). And we should be on guard when he goes beyond rhetoric and tries real steps that take away from the freedom of the press
Never in our nation's history has a "so-called" president called for suspending the first amendment because his feelings are hurt by honest media coverage. This is 3rd world crap.

And, as you mentioned, his mindless followers slurp down his lies like ice cream.

But they get one scoop, he gets two.

 
Old 10-12-2017, 07:00 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Never in our nation's history has a "so-called" president called for suspending the first amendment because his feelings are hurt by honest media coverage. This is 3rd world crap.

And, as you mentioned, his mindless followers slurp down his lies like ice cream.

But they get one scoop, he gets two.

Did I miss something? When did Trump call for "suspending the First Amendment?"

What I have seen is the Left effectively "suspending" the First Amendment rights of individuals who have been invited to speak at American universities all across this country, inciting violence, setting fires, breaking glass, beating people up, taking over the streets and blocking traffic, using pepper spray, etc (ANTIFA). They certainly act like fascists to me.
 
Old 10-12-2017, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Pixley
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really?



Originally Posted by CCbaxter View Post
And as another poster noted, NBC is not a broadcaster, they are a content company.
really?

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The National Broadcasting Company (NBC) is an American English language commercial broadcast television network that is a flagship property of NBCUniversal, a subsidiary of Comcast. The network is headquartered at 30 Rockefeller Plaza in New York City, with additional major offices near Los Angeles (at 10 Universal City Plaza), and Chicago (at the NBC Tower). The network is part of the Big Three television networks. NBC is sometimes referred to as the "Peacock Network", in reference to its stylized peacock logo, introduced in 1956 to promote the company's innovations in early color broadcasting. It became the network's official emblem in 1979.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC
You do know that NBC does not own all of the stations in its network, just like CBS, ABC and Fox, right? These companies band together television stations in what is known as a network of affiliates (an idea first employed by David Sarnoff nearly 100 years ago - 1925 - with radio stations).

Local affiliates are television stations owned by completely unrelated entities, sometimes smaller networks, that enter into an agreement to broadcast program content supplied by the parent network. These local affiliates do not have to broadcast everything the parent company supplies to the network, but generally they do. Local affiliates also create and broadcast their own content, like local news and other programming.

Now, in addition to having almost 200 affiliates around the country, NBCUniversal does own a number of their own stations (11), most notably WNBC in New York, and KNBC in Los Angeles. But these are individually licensed stations, and the is no one "central license" that is granted to NBCUniversal to operate as a television network.

So yes Trump is quite in error to say that "...at what point is it appropriate to challenge their License?".

What is so sad, is that Trump claims to have this tremendous business acumen and was involved with a successful televisions show on the NBC network, yet he does not posses the basic knowledge of the television business that is taught in any "History of Broadcasting 101" class at any college, that any one with internet access could find on line, or that a random viewer would be able to pick up just watching television over the years. And we know that Trump watches a lot of television.
 
Old 10-12-2017, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy View Post
Did I miss something?
Clearly!
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When did Trump call for "suspending the First Amendment?"
It was all over the news yesterday.

You must have tuned into Fox instead.

Quote:
What I have seen is the Left effectively "suspending" the First Amendment rights of individuals who have been invited to speak at American universities all across this country, inciting violence, setting fires, breaking glass, beating people up, taking over the streets and blocking traffic, using pepper spray, etc (ANTIFA).
You can't differentiate between the US govt and protesters.
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They certainly act like fascists to me.
Well, thanks for sharing.

 
Old 10-12-2017, 01:02 PM
 
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every day. every dam day it is something with this guy. every day! 3+ more years of this? lord help us...
 
Old 10-12-2017, 01:04 PM
 
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I have no idea what your trying to prove with this diatribe, which is pure garbage.
The point is very clear.
 
Old 10-12-2017, 01:07 PM
 
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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy View Post
"Net Neutrality" was a deceptive title applied to the FCC's reclassification of the Internet under an outdated monopoly era statute know as "Title II" of the Communications Act in which the FCC has authority to control. This kind of deceptive title is a ploy that the Democrats always use when they want to apply more control over something. It sounds innocuous, but it wasn't.

The Internet was originally classified as a "Title I" service, or "information service." Reclassifying it as a "telecommunications service" seems a step backward.

Repealing "Net Neutrality" is the right thing to do to keep the Internet free of government regulation.


what's funny is that the majority of people effected by the guying of actual net neutrality are the ones cheering it on because they buy your crap. Rural poor, Trumps base, will get hit hardest by killing it, yet once again, the lemmings cheer on their Daddy as he picks their pockets....
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