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Old 10-12-2017, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The Donald and I are about the same age. In the 60's when I was visiting relatives in Brooklyn they considered Puerto Ricans to be a lower life form closer to whale s**** then real people. Trump lived in Queens and probably absorbed the same ideas about Puerto Rican's. He is just reacting to his inner belief that poor PR's do not deserver to be American's let alone receive the kind of investment they need to join the 21st century.


This racial obsession with the inherent inferiority of poor brown people is guiding all of is relief efforts. I can only wait to see how much money he is going to dump into the fire forests of northern California after the ongoing disaster. Maybe he won't send anything help as everybody, especially his deluded mind, knows that these places always vote for Democrats even if they are mostly white like Huston and Florida.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:26 AM
 
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Once the supplies are delivered and the area stabilized, FEMA should leave. Let the locals take care of themselves. This is a STATE issue now.
PR isn't a State, and they don't have the resources places like Texas have, where Trump said he'd help them completely rebuild.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Thumbs down Trump threatens to pull FEMA from Puerto Rico

Millions of Americans suffering after a tremendous hurricane devastates the area.

The relief effort has been sluggish and ineffective.

The so-called American "prez" throws a juvenile fit and threatens to end that aid.

His Trumpling followers cheer him on.

You simply can't make this stuff up.

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Old 10-12-2017, 08:27 AM
 
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The Donald and I are about the same age. In the 60's when I was visiting relatives in Brooklyn they considered Puerto Ricans to be a lower life form closer to whale s**** then real people. Trump lived in Queens and probably absorbed the same ideas about Puerto Rican's. He is just reacting to his inner belief that poor PR's do not deserver to be American's let alone receive the kind of investment they need to join the 21st century.


This racial obsession with the inherent inferiority of poor brown people is guiding all of is relief efforts. I can only wait to see how much money he is going to dump into the fire forests of northern California after the ongoing disaster. Maybe he won't send anything help as everybody, especially his deluded mind, knows that these places always vote for Democrats even if they are mostly white like Huston and Florida.
If California can afford to be a sanctuary state, they can afford to fight their own fires. Send some of their "new labor" to do the work.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:29 AM
 
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He didn't say he would stay in Florida and Texas forever; He said he would stay as long as it took to rebuild.


The problem with Puerto Rico is that they had major problems with their infrastructure before the storm. It is not FEMA's job to fix problems that were not caused by the storm. FEMA needs to stay as long as is necessary to get Puerto Rico back on their feet, and then it is the people and government of Puerto Rico's job to take it from there.


I swear you people would find a problem with anything. Saying they will not stay forever is completely benign and reasonable.


I have seen where President Trump has stated that PR had 'major problems' with their infrastructure prior to the storm, which assertion you now repeat.


Can you cite some examples of how it was in PR before the storm?


I will be helpful in stating that 'infrastructure' refers to "the fundamental facilities and systems serving a country, city, or area, as transportation and communication systems, power plants, and schools."


Infrastructure | Define Infrastructure at Dictionary.com




For instance, it is my understanding that PRIOR to the storm 100 percent of the citizens enjoyed electrical power, safe drinking water, and cell phone service. PR had, prior to the storm, a network of roads and bridges that one could travel upon. You had functioning schools, hospitals, and government. You had ports that were open for ships, both cargo and passenger. You had a functioning airport.


Anyway, since Mr. Trump is not here to answer my question, perhaps you would inform me of the state of the infrastructure in PR prior to the storm.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:30 AM
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Why not? We've kept the military in Afghanistan for 16 years. Trump said he'd stay with Texas and Florida as long as it took for them to rebuild. Why treat PR differently? It's only been 3 weeks.

That's the problem right there. it's not like it's been 3 months or 3 years with no end in sight. Barely a dent has been made in the recovery effort or not a noticeable enough one to say that PR is on any kind of recovery path that a plan to gradually remove FEMA is even a warranted discussion at this point.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:33 AM
 
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The Donald and I are about the same age. In the 60's when I was visiting relatives in Brooklyn they considered Puerto Ricans to be a lower life form closer to whale s**** then real people. Trump lived in Queens and probably absorbed the same ideas about Puerto Rican's. He is just reacting to his inner belief that poor PR's do not deserver to be American's let alone receive the kind of investment they need to join the 21st century.


This racial obsession with the inherent inferiority of poor brown people is guiding all of is relief efforts. I can only wait to see how much money he is going to dump into the fire forests of northern California after the ongoing disaster. Maybe he won't send anything help as everybody, especially his deluded mind, knows that these places always vote for Democrats even if they are mostly white like Huston and Florida.
Houston is about "half brown" and the hardest hit areas even moreso.

The constant need to spin stories to create racism and social division out of thin air gets pretty old.

Trump is a buffoon (in general) but this is just partisan sniping.

I spent 8 years around here defending Obama from the same sort of partisan crap over every little thing so I'm well practiced dealing with it. The OP is just doing what the right wingers did before them.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:33 AM
 
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Trump threatens to pull FEMA from Puerto Rico - ABC15 Arizona

Everyday you think this monster can't get any worse, and yet he does something even more vile. Maybe Trump actually is the anti-Christ.
Such an irrational comment to a logical rational statement made by our President.

You basically misunderstand the role of FEMA.
For example you wouldn't expect the EMT who got you to the hospital to stick around and help you through surgery you can't expect first responders to stick around and rebuild infrastructure.

Local public agencies, private charity's and other religious based agencies are the usual organizations that manage volunteers and donations that are the source of rebuilding efforts following major disasters.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:36 AM
 
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That's the problem right there. it's not like it's been 3 months or 3 years with no end in sight. Barely a dent has been made in the recovery effort or not a noticeable enough one to say that PR is on any kind of recovery path that a plan to gradually remove FEMA is even a warranted discussion at this point.
Isn't the real proof of the matter is when he actually DOES withdraw FEMA (if he even has that power).

Words are pretty empty on the topic, let's see what is actually done eh?
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:40 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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That's the problem right there. it's not like it's been 3 months or 3 years with no end in sight. Barely a dent has been made in the recovery effort or not a noticeable enough one to say that PR is on any kind of recovery path that a plan to gradually remove FEMA is even a warranted discussion at this point.
What, exactly, is FEMA "doing" in Puerto Rico? I ask because FEMA tends to be a paperwork, logistical organizational, check writing organization and not hands on reconnect the electric lines group of people.

There are time frames for most FEMA actions although applications for reimbursements to governments can go on for up to 18 months after the event. Reimbursement programs and grants for individuals and business will typically last 24 months and then sunset.
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